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Lightbulb SLI & CF PSU's

Updated 3-16-07

SLI & CF PSU's
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Originally Posted by webstien
I had to make this
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As you will see all PSU's recommended for highend systems are Single +12V Rail PSU's.

This has now become necessary for several reasons:

PSU manufactures are now assigning the rails on their multi-rail (3 or more +12V rails) PSU's in whatever fashion pleases them.

Motherboard manufacturers are now requiring additional power connectors, beyond the standard ATX & P4/EPS connectors.

Sometimes the interaction of these unique rail assignments & additional power connectors results in mobo/PSU incompatibility.

All of these problems are of course caused by the ever higher power demands of ever more powerful GPU's.

Most Dual +12V Rail PSU's are not effected as one rail "should always" be used exclusively to power the CPU via the P4/EPS connector, however Dual Rail PSU's that follow the specs can not power highend SLI systems.

Therefore all PSU's recommended for highend systems now need to be Single +12V Rail PSU's.

Please note that the Seasonic built Corsairs & Antecs (HE & Trio) are, regardless of advertising,
Single +12V Rail PSU's, in that there is no per-rail current limiting, meaning that any +12V rail can pull whatever +12V amperage is available. This is also true of the Seasonic M-12's.
The Corsairs are built to higher standards than the Antecs.


From PC P&C's Power Supply Myths Exposed!: http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/

8. ARE MULTIPLE 12-VOLT RAILS BETTER THAN A SINGLE 12-VOLT RAIL?

With all the hype about multiple 12-volt rails (ads claim that two rails is better than one, five is better than four, etc.), you’d think it was a better design. Unfortunately, it’s not!

Here are the facts: A large, single 12-volt rail (without a 240VA limit) can transfer 100% of the 12-volt output from the PSU to the computer, while a multi-rail 12-volt design has distribution losses of up to 30% of the power supply’s rating. Those losses occur because power literally gets “trapped” on under-utilized rails. For example, if the 12-volt rail that powers the CPU is rated for 17 amps and the CPU only uses 7A, the remaining 10A is unusable, since it is isolated from the rest of the system.

Since the maximum current from any one 12-volt rail of a multiple-rail PSU is limited to 20 amps (240VA / 12 volts = 20 amps), PCs with high-performance components that draw over 20 amps from the same rail are subject to over-current shutdowns. With power requirements for multiple processors and graphics cards continuing to grow, the multiple-rail design, with its 240VA limit per rail, is basically obsolete.

PC Power and Cooling is once again leading the industry. All of our power supplies now feature a large, single 12-volt rail. The design is favored by major processor and graphics companies, complies with EPS12V specs (the 240VA limit is not a requirement) and is approved by all major safety agencies such as UL and TUV.


From Silverstone: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-da750.htm

"With the knowledge that single +12V rail power is the next generation power supply, SilverStone Technology introduces Decathlon series, offering enthusiasts more choices with single rail power selections to handle their system."
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For R600 CrossFire:

PC P&C Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR [Single +12V Rail] (+12V@72A) (The Best of the Best of the Best!)
Specs: http://www.pcpower.com/products/view...view=techspecs
$499: http://www.pcpower.com/products/view...WSR&view=about

SILVERSTONE Olympia OP1000 1000W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@80A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op1000.htm
From: $335: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=p
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For 8800GTX or 8800GTS in SLI:

Zippy PSL 6850P 850W [Single +12V Rail] (+12V@60A)
Specs: http://www.zippy.com.tw/P_PRODUCT_DE...r=3&lv_rfnbr=2
Gaming Specs: http://www.zippy.com/P_product_detai...850P(G1)-PCIE4
From $322: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?so...line&scoring=p

PC P&C Silencer 750W [Single +12V Rail] (My #1 Choice for 8800GTX SLI!)
Up to +12V@60A
Specs: http://www.pcpower.com/products/view...view=techspecs
$199: http://www.pcpower.com/products/view...php?show=S75QB

Silverstone Decathlon DA750 750W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@60A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-da750.htm
From $178: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?so...line&scoring=p

SilverStone Olympia OP750 750W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@60A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op750.htm
From $149: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=p
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For 8800GTS or 7950 GX2 or 7900 GTX or 7800 GTX in SLI or ANY Single R600:

SeaSonic M12 SS-700HM 700W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.] [Modular]
Up to +12V@56A, Rated@40C, Efficiency up to 85%, 3yr warranty
Specs: http://www.seasonicusa.com/m12.htm
Review: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=13
From $189: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?so...line&scoring=p

Corsair HX 620W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@50A, +5VSB@3A
Specs: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...er_supply.html
From $129: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?so...line&scoring=p
Review: 8800 GTX's in SLI: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/462/1/
Review: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
I have personally tested this PSU & I highly recommend it.

SilverStone Olympia OP650 650W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@54A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op650.htm
Fron $127: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=p

Antec TruePower Trio 650W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@52A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/TP3_650_spe.html
From $103: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=r
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For Midrange SLI or ANY Single Nvidia GPU:

Corsair HX 520W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@40A, +5VSB@3A
Specs: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...er_supply.html
From $97: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=p
Review: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=28
I have personally tested this PSU & I highly recommend it.

Silverstone Zeus ST56ZF 560W [Single +12V Rail] (+12V@38A)
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-56zf.htm
From $115: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?so...line&scoring=p

Antec Neo HE 550W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@42A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/NeoHE550_spe.html
From $89: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=p

Antec TruePower Trio 550W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@42A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/TP3_550_spe.html
From $80: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...line&scoring=r
FSP Group (Fortron Source) BoosterX 3, 300W SLI Graphic Power Supply
Dedicated Multi-GPU Graphic Power Supply Unit
Specs: http://www.fspgroupusa.com/FSPNEWS/BOOSTERX3.asp
From $66: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?so...line&scoring=p
If you have a good PSU, but need more power for SLI,
just put this +12V (only) GPU PSU in an empty 5.25" bay!


Jason's (EOC) Reviews: http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles.php#13

jonnyGURU's Reviews: http://www.jonnyguru.com/reviews.php

Legit Reviews: http://www.legitreviews.com/articles/power_supply/

Nvidia SLI Certified: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizon..._powersupplies

For more information: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...2&page=1&pp=20

Updated 3-16-07

Dave

Last edited by davidhammock200 : 03-16-07 at 09:15 PM
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