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Hi all, first post to Overclock.net -- hope this is the right forum for this topic.

I am having a heat issue since adding a 2nd 8800 GTX card to my system -- hoping to get some advice from the experts. Symptoms include freeze-ups, BSoDs, and lower frame rates during gaming (primarily CoD4) after about 30-60 minutes of play. GPU core temps seem to be around 88 to 101 when this happens, as best I can tell. I'm using HWMonitor and GPU-Z to monitor temps. I'm pretty sure these are heat issues, because if I leave the side panel off the case, I don't see these issues.

I have a Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 case, which I generally like, but I think this case is contributing to my excessive heat issues. Here is a photo of my SLI setup:



I think the heat issues are due to a few factors:
- the 8800 GTX is a beast when it comes to heat
- installing a 2 slot graphics card in the bottom PCI-E slot doesn't leave much room for air intake / output for the card (maybe an inch), and there is very little air movement at the bottom of the case due to the next point
- the 120mm intake fan on the 570 does not move enough air because it is blocked by the front panel and the sideways-mounted drive cage.

This leaves a lot of heat and very little airflow at the bottom of the case. I've taken several steps to try to alleviate this:
- replaced the stock Gigabyte fan with a Scythe S-Flex 64 cfm / 1600 rpm fan
- removed the air filter on the intake fan assembly (it was the plastic kind, very restrictive)
- attached an 80mm fan to the outside of the drive cage to help draw air into the area and blow directly across the bottom card.
- added a Silverstone 3x 5.25 drive bay 120mm fan (this has helped my CPU temps but doesn't do much for the GPUs)
- added a PCI slot cooler fan below the top card

Here is a photo of the intake fan area, showing the drive cage blockage and 80mm fan added:



These efforts seem to have helped a little, but I'm still experiencing the problems noted above.

Have I missed anything obvious here? Here's what I'm thinking for next steps:
1. remove GPU shrouds, clean off stock thermal paste, and apply the correct amount of Arctic Silver 5 (is there a tutorial for this on the site somewhere?)
2. buy a new case with better airflow. Aside from taking a dremmel to it, I don't see any way to increase airflow in the 570.
3. buy aftermarket cooling for the GPUs. Somewhat reluctant to do this since I do eventually plan to water cool and don't want to waste money, but I'm not ready for that yet and need a short-term solution.
4. replace the side window of my case with the supplied mesh cover. Also reluctant to do this since it already sounds like I'm sitting next to a jet engine (plus I don't like the way it looks)

At the moment I am leaning towards 1 and 2: 1 because there is no cost, and 2 because I really think my case setup is the main source of the issue. I've been looking at the following case options: Cooler Master Cosmos S, Antec 900, and NZXT Tempest. I like the idea of a bottom-mounted PSU, and the top-mounted fans. I'd like to have a window if possible, as aesthetics are important to me as well.

Any ideas or suggestions? Apologies for the extra long post. TIA.
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When i had GTX's in SLI it was a problem also, what makes the largest difference is increasing the fan speed on the cards using Rivatuner 2.09.
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Thanks Mhill, forgot to mention that I'm using Rivatuner to keep my fans at 100% all the time. That did make a big difference --dropped my idle temps about 5-8C.
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Thanks Mhill, forgot to mention that I'm using Rivatuner to keep my fans at 100% all the time. That did make a big difference --dropped my idle temps about 5-8C.
I was going to suggest 2x 80mm or 120mm fans on the side panel, then realised your side panel has no fans. That's a bit of a bummer.

Your side panel isn't helping dude, you need some fans on that. But that would require some modding.
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Yeah, that's one reason I'm considering a new case -- with a side fan. Any suggestions on a case? I would like something roomy (used to a full tower), preferably with a window and a bottom-mounted PSU.
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you can do a pretty easy mod like what i did:

after my zalman mod on my 9800GTX, it had idled around 40-42C. But after installing two fans out of my junk bin, my temps stay 33-34C.

EDIT: jesus christ, I just noticed how warped my card is!
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129025

you may want to take off the plastic covering on your 8800s and a intel stock fan fits on there with its clamps
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Here is what I did with my pair of 8800gtx
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Robilar, do you have that fan blowing ON to the cards or drawing air FROM them? I could try this easily, as I have the extra 120mm Gigabyte fan that I replaced with the Scythe.
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I don't have any issues with stock cooling on my GTS's. Antec 1200 case.
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