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OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@@! !!!@!@!@!1111!!1!

I would agree temps don't matter much, my bro run his laptop @ 93-97C 247 for 3 years and it's still working fine, we constantly thought it'll fry soon.

Think about it this way too, a pressured tank is considered 100 PSI (pressure measurement) safe by testing it with 200 PSI. So if you put 120 PSI in that tank, are you at risk? Up to your own opinion and perception.

I know a friend that had his P4 over recommended temp for couple years now, so yea, don't get too freaked out about temps.

Adrienspawn

Lower temps means you can lower your fan speed to get to higher temps, so technically lower temps = more silence. I load under 40 with all my fans at 5-6v. Not a good example because my temps are still low, but they're higher than they could be if I cared only about temps.

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Nenkitsune

actually, no. the drop did indeed let me let it go up higher. before if I were to try a gradual increase up to 300mhz on the fsb, it would lock up instantly. and when I managed to get that 3.427, it crashed a few seconds after I saved the validation. and I'm not loading it, since it wouldn't be stable enough to get loaded.
I never stop trying to make it go higher because of temps go. hell, I even tried it at the normal day to day idle temp of 30c, and it refused to even hit 3.4ghz (with ALL the same settings I just used last night) and it was a no go.

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Kopi

Electromigration has everything to do with temperatures...why do you think people use things like phase change? Allow the temps to be reduced which reduces the electromigration and allows more voltage because of that.

I agree to a point, and its also good to note that almost no applications will stress your CPU 100% (if its a recent CPU) in the first place...but I still wouldn't like having my chip over 70c for too long. The 45nm voltage limit puts me well under temp spec.

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AchunderG

which would actually create more friction and then break them.

resulting in unwanted consequences

Retrospekt

Why you gotta diss the metaphor? Now it's not funny anymore.

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MarineRevenge

This thread has inspired me to push my chip even more.

Gonna try to break 3.2 Ghz on stock HSF. I've got 2 120mm fans on the side and top of my HSF now, and a 120mm and a 82mm fan blowing cool air in.

Hopefully i don't go past 75Cish with the voltage increases.

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Blameless

Spec, tjmax, and throttling end/start at virtually the same temperature.

You are NOT running out of spec by running your CPU at 90C.

Essentially, yes.

The more voltage you use, the lower the safe temps.

While within the stock VID range, there should be ZERO problems with running a CPU nearly all the way to the tjmax.

At the 1.25v I currently use, I have nothing to fear from 95C on-die temps.

gamer11200

I disagree. I had my P4 prescott running with a stock cooler. Playing a simple game like UT2004 caused this thing to top 80 celsius. After a few months, the motherboard got fried.

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Too much heat makes it harder for the CPU to run stable. A chip @ 4gHz and 50C works more efficiently than a 4gHz chip @ 75C. It's all a bunch of transistors in there and they want the coolest environment they can get. Especially when overclocking past manufacturer's "safe" specs.
How do you people figure that they can get such high OC's using LN2, DICE, Phase etc? Could it possibly be because they have lower temps? And even then they kill their chips quite often.
A chip is not made to last for only a year or so. This "a year" term works for an OCer but not for the average Joe.

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