TRUE vs. Noctua NH-U12P vs. Xigmatek Dark Knight review - Page 11 - Overclock.net

ljason8eg · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by tehpwnerofn00bs

I'm very interested to see how this turns out. If possible, could you also test the for push/pull fans on both?

Oh, and poohball: Congratulations, you're the newest member of my blocked user list.

I can do push pull on the Noctua fan, and the Antec Tri cool. Sadly, I don't have 2 of the San Ace 1011's and they're about impossible to find, and $25 a pop.

poohball · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp

As said, you're fighting a losing argument. You only proved the TRUE will beat the Noctua. The TRUE, after modifying, provides the best performance of any air cooler. Given how close the Noctua comes to an UN-modified TRUE, in what of YOUR dreams does a Xigmatek or OCZ cooler defeat the Noctua? By "market competitior" in the Cons, it means the TRUE. Is THAT hard to understand?

........do you even know what the heck you talking about? of course it means the true. it got whooped by 4+c....more than 4c is close...nice if thats your standard. read the chart again under loaded. 1 fan....Noctua fan.

check this out too...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-15.html

oh this too
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=6

keep dreaming the Noc can beat HDT. It may get close to performance with 1 extra heatpipe, but beat it? hah.

ljason8eg · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by poohball

........do you even know what the heck you talking about? of course it means the true. it got whooped by 4+c....more than 4c is close...nice if thats your standard. read the chart again under loaded. 1 fan....Noctua fan.

check this out too...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-15.html

oh this too
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=6

keep dreaming the Noc can beat HDT. It may get close to performance with 1 extra heatpipe, but beat it? hah.

Fail.

Those are all different reviews done by different people in different conditions. WAY too much room for error.

I'm trying to come up with the money to buy the Xig now. I just need to silence this talk once and for all.

tehpwnerofn00bs · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by ljason8eg

I can do push pull on the Noctua fan, and the Antec Tri cool. Sadly, I don't have 2 of the San Ace 1011's and they're about impossible to find, and $25 a pop.

That's fine. You could just add one of the tricools and we can guesstimate what the temps would be with another San Ace.

Edit: Dude, Jason, just block him so you don't have to read his posts, or start reporting his posts for trolling. Arguing with him isn't going to help. Don't feed the trolls!

ljason8eg · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by tehpwnerofn00bs

That's fine. You could just add one of the tricools and we can guesstimate what the temps would be with another San Ace.

The san ace actually pushes SO much air through the heatsink that if i put my hand on the side its pushing the air out of, it feels like there's not even a heatsink there lol. If i had to make a guess, there's probably no benefit to having 2 san aces on there, but with lower speed 120x25mm fans, i think there will be improvement with 2 fans.

Can't seem to find the block button lol or i would. Thought you could only do that in chat...

thecheeseofmanynames · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by poohball

"There's no getting through to you, is there? You even broke your own link. The only BSing going on is on your end. Just stop it. Please. You refuse to accept that, out of the box, without modding, the Noctua is THE best CPU air cooler available, that's just how it is. You made no effort to keep this on topic, and no effort to listen to reason or fact."

How so? it won't even beat S1283 or vendetta 2. stop dreaming.

Wake up please, the HDT coolers do very well at heat loads of less than 150-175w, anything more and they can't keep up like the TRUE or the Noctua, this has been tested before(HDT vs TRUE), and the true comes out on top.
Gimme a minute and I will find it.

EDIT:
Here it is:
http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...1283-true.html

kimosabi · 02-25-09

Well if youre stuck with a Noctua, drop the ambient a couple degrees and you have similar performance. People usually dont have both HSFs at once. I'm all in for an unbiased test here ljason8eg.

poohball, try not to be a wiseass, maybe youre right maybe youre not but most of us here at OCN likes to test stuff out by ourselves.

Theres a reason to why google finds this forum almost whatever you search in enthusiast components/modding/overclocking...... Its called enthusiasm.

poohball · 02-25-09

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Originally Posted by ljason8eg

Again...i will test this and see for myself and everyone else that's interested at OCN. Obviously if my results are different than ONE review you're going to cry foul on my results. I've learned not to trust internet reviews for good reason, they're usually biased one way or the other.

You're not going to change my mind. So you think i should just not do everyone a favor and test them because of one simple review? Right...I don't believe everything I read.

Yes Jason, please test it, I am really eager to see how you can yield better result or how Noctua can ignore law of physics when it comes to heat dispense.

I already know what will be the result for a 4heatpipe cooler stack againt 3heatpipe HDT cooler. with a 1200-1300rpm fan, the 4 heatpipe will be close to 3 heatpie HDT at best. Let see your result.

ljason8eg · 02-25-09

Ok, poohball is blocked..thank god. Anyways...

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Originally Posted by kimosabi

Well if youre stuck with a Noctua, drop the ambient a couple degrees and you have similar performance. People usually dont have both HSFs at once. I'm all in for an unbiased test here ljason8eg.

poohball, try not to be a wiseass, maybe youre right maybe youre not but most of us here at OCN likes to test stuff out by ourselves.

Theres a reason to why google finds this forum almost whatever you search in enthusiast components/modding/overclocking...... Its called enthusiasm.

Yes i'm going to be totally unbiased. I really could care less if the noctua gets beat cause i'm keeping the TRUE anyway. I really want to throw the xig in here...maybe if i could find someone local that wants a build...I could just test the cooler before i give it to them lol.

redalert · 02-25-09

are you going to do this in a case or open air? If you cant find an Xig for the review I will buy a brand new one from newegg and shipped it to you. I wasted money on a bunch of stuff I dont really need so whats $40

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