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I think that if you lapped the proc and both of them coolers the Copper TRUE would come out maybe 1-2 degree's better. Sure it's not as cost efficient but it's still smaller and it's a TRUE, let's not let it loose the title as the best.
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Nice results =) I'm using a CoolerMaster V8 at the moment..upgraded from the OCZ vendetta 2, massive difference, V8 FTW.
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I think that if you lapped the proc and both of them coolers the Copper TRUE would come out maybe 1-2 degree's better. Sure it's not as cost efficient but it's still smaller and it's a TRUE, let's not let it loose the title as the best.
I think you're a TRUE fanboy Why shouldn't we? Are you not for the advancement of computing performance? We have had the same design and ****ty base on it for god knows how long. Why would a company subject their customers to low quality products, expecting them to make them better. Remember; this TRUE in comparison to Optimus Prime is pressure modded, and it still gets beat. Pressure mod that Optimus somehow and lap both and post the results, only then is the final comparison found. But just to reiterate; TRUE pressure modded < Optimus Prime stock.

Anyway; it's nothing new to be seeing the TRUE's title challenged and/or defeated. There are coolers that have beaten out TRUE's in comparisons (HDT-S***, Vendetta 2s), as much as you guys hate to think it, but some results show those particular coolers to be equal to, if not better. Many times though, those coolers tied up with a TRUE, just for lots less money.

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Also, with more heat being produced by new cores, particularly the i7, the TRUE is not going to be able to keep up forever; we need Thermalright to upgrade it's design. I suspect they will, as it is such a large seller.
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I think you're a TRUE fanboy Why shouldn't we? Are you not for the advancement of computing performance? We have had the same design and ****ty base on it for god knows how long. Why would a company subject their customers to low quality products, expecting them to make them better. Remember; this TRUE in comparison to Megatron Prime is pressure modded, and it still gets beat. Pressure mod that Megatron somehow and lap both and post the results, only then is the final comparison found. But just to reiterate; TRUE pressure modded <Megatron stock.

Anyway; it's nothing new to be seeing the TRUE's title challenged and/or defeated. There are coolers that have beaten out TRUE's in comparisons (HDT-S***, Vendetta 2s), as much as you guys hate to think it, but some results show those particular coolers to be equal to, if not better. Many times though, those coolers tied up with a TRUE, just for lots less money.

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Also, with more heat being produced by new cores, particularly the i7, the TRUE is not going to be able to keep up forever; we need Thermalright to upgrade it's design. I suspect they will, as it is such a large seller.
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I think that if you lapped the proc and both of them coolers the Copper TRUE would come out maybe 1-2 degree's better. Sure it's not as cost efficient but it's still smaller and it's a TRUE, let's not let it loose the title as the best.
Its not fair to say "Mod one and not the other". Whats the point? Either dont mod or mod both. I agree with the above post about Thermalright may need to upgrade their design to stay on top much longer. Don't get me wrong, its a fantastic cooler but the IFX-14 beats it and it looks as if the Megatron or whatever its called beats it so its obviously not unbeatable.

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I think that if you lapped the proc and both of them coolers the Copper TRUE would come out maybe 1-2 degree's better. Sure it's not as cost efficient but it's still smaller and it's a TRUE, let's not let it loose the title as the best.

Let's not forget how heavy the Copper TRUE is
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I did say to mod them both not just the TRUE. Im no TRUE fanboy as I have a Xigmatek. I just think that if you get a Copper TRUE Lapped + Pressure Mod vs a Megatron whatever all modded I still think the TRUE could come out better as lapping really unlocks potential.

BTW I don't really see how the Copper TRUE weight is an issue with most people. Just wrap a budgie cord around the heatpipes and over something in your case, it will give it all the support it needs and not bend your mobo.
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I did say to mod them both not just the TRUE. Im no TRUE fanboy as I have a Xigmatek. I just think that if you get a Copper TRUE Lapped + Pressure Mod vs a Megatron whatever all modded I still think the TRUE could come out better as lapping really unlocks potential.

BTW I don't really see how the Copper TRUE weight is an issue with most people. Just wrap a budgie cord around the heatpipes and over something in your case, it will give it all the support it needs and not bend your mobo.
Ya, Copper TRUE may win that one in this situation. I agree about weight not being an issue. If you want extreme you will go to extreme lengths to make it work (even bungies). I dont think I would ever buy a copper TRUE though for the price. I bet the Optimus Prime would still be within 1-2c of a lapped copper TRUE if not equal for alot cheaper. Now you got me curious. Anyone got a copper TRUE?

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For everyone asking for a lapped TRUE copper: PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH.
THE BASE IS POLISHED AND MACHINED TO PERFECTION. It is NOT like the TRUE black or regular edition that are concave and not flat.

If anything the Megahalem needs to be lapped when being compared to a TRUE copper. I can't believe so many people are saying this. Sorry to sound like a prick but I'd rather say the truth than be quiet.

Here are some screenshots review on the TRUE copper so that you guys can get a better feel for the cooler in question:

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Side notes : the TRUE weighs in at 1900 grams. The Prolimatech Megahalem is 780 grams in comparison. The manufacturer cautions to only mount it horizontally cause of the weight(i.e you may have to leave you case on the side if you're going to run it in your system.
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