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Which cooler is better, the Xigmatek Dark Knight or the Scythe Mugen 2?

The Scythe Mugen 2 consistently receives better temperatures than the Dark Knight. The Mugen 2 also comes with mounting for the LGA 775, LGA 1366, LGA 478, AM2, AM2+, AM3, 940, 939 and 754. In addition, up to 4 fans can be attached opposed to only 2 on the Dark Knight. The included fan, a Scythe Slipstream, is considered to be quite silent aswell. The Scythe Mugen 2 also does not need to be lapped. The Scythe Mugen 2 can also be mounted up/down and left/right, while the Dark Knight only works up/down*, which may not be optimal if you have a top-mounted PSU or weak/no top fans. However, some drawbacks are that the Scythe Mugen 2 is not as easy to mount, and the Scythe Mugen 2 can block RAM slots if you have tall RAM heatsinks, such as OCZ reapers or Corsair Dominators. The Mugen 2 is priced $5 to $10 cheaper than the dark knight.

*on certain AMD sockets


Do I need to lap my Scythe Mugen 2?
No, you do not, since it already has a very, very flat base. However, you can if you want to.

How does it compare to a Thermalright Ultra Extreme (TRUE)?
The Scythe Mugen 2 can compete with an unlapped TRUE, however, when the TRUE is lapped, it will perform better than the Mugen 2. Since the Mugen 2 is already very flat, it will not see much performance gain when lapped, so a lapped Mugen 2 will still be out performed by a lapped TRUE.

Isn't the Mugen 2 gigantic?
It is a large cooler, but unless you have very tall RAM, your Mugen 2 will NOT block any RAM slots.

How should I mount my Mugen 2 New!
You should mount it so that the ridges go with the airflow. You also want to mount the fan on the longer broader sides. This typically means the Mugen 2 will be mounted Up/Down, as seen in this picture. The reason why is the ridges will create turbulence if the air flow goes against the ridges, and the ridges were created to move more air through.



Which Cases are compatible?
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-Cooler Master CM-690 (Side fan can remain on in some orientations)
-Antec 300
-Cooler Master HAF 932
-Cooler Master Storm Sniper
-Antec Mini P180
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I would also like to point out that one of our members, skugpezz, has switched over from a Xigmatek Dark Knight to a Mugen 2 and saw a drop of ~10*C on his AMD Setup!
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At first, it looks tough to install, but then you figure out that you have to install differently than other coolers. Here's a video on how to install it in 5 minutes.
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The Scythe Mugen 2 can also be mounted up/down and left/right, while the Dark Knight only works up/down, which may not be optimal if you have a top-mounted PSU or weak/no top fans.
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Please remove this as it's completely false.

Hmm... I read that several times in threads... but pictures are proof. Alright, fixed.
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At first, it looks tough to install, but then you figure out that you have to install differently than other coolers. Here's a video on how to install it in 5 minutes.
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you should use small fft, it gives off more heat from the cpu from what i have found personally
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I believe the dark knight could only be mounted on amd systems vertically unless you bought a s-clip. Need confirmation though, I'm just pulling this from the back of my head.
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Man what's with the Dark Knight hate LOL

It's just a heatsink.

I'm using Mushkin Redline RAM, the cpu fan is raised ever so slightly, about .25", but it clears.

This is about the hottest I see the cpu get in my current configuration, 3.8ghz 1.2V with ram at 1451mhz 7-7-7-18 This is running Linx and Blend at the same time.

New fans incoming later this week from newegg and the mugen2 will be set for push-pull, and some more cable management inside the case
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How can you tell hes not?

small fft starts with 8k, in his ss it starts with 4k which is the blend test


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Please remove this as it's completely false.

Not completely false.

Half false.

It doesn't mount that way on AM2/AM2+/AM3
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