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I want to know everyone's temps running a stock q9550 with a Freezer 7 Pro using Prime95. Please post your temps. Mines is 55 degrees at max load after about 30 minutes of testing. Does this mean that I installed the CPU cooler correctly? I mean if I just let it hang and push it off just a little would the temps increase because of bad cooling since it would be not mounted correctly if pushed off just a little? Like by how much? Thanks.
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I want to know everyone's temps running a stock q9550 with a Freezer 7 Pro using Prime95. Please post your temps. Mines is 55 degrees at max load after about 30 minutes of testing. Does this mean that I installed the CPU cooler correctly? I mean if I just let it hang and push it off just a little would the temps increase because of bad cooling since it would be not mounted correctly if pushed off just a little? Like by how much? Thanks.
I don't know what you mean by letting it hang and push it off a little, but regardless: based on the temperatures you're seeing, I think that it's definitely evidence that the AF 7 Pro needs to be reseated. It could be that it doesn't have enough thermal compound, or that there's too much. Or, it could be that the heatsink itself wasn't secured down tightly enough: it should be secured so well that you cannot move it. It should feel like it's a part of the motherboard; as though the motherboard and the heatsink is just one giant solid piece.

I mean, at stock, the temperatures really shouldn't exceed like 45°C at full load while running the Small FFTs test.

However, it could also be the computer room's temperatures too. So, what are they? I mean, if they're above like 80°F (or 26-27°C), then I guess that could be the only reason why the temps are so high.

But if the CPU cooler was installed correctly, and is very secure with about the right amount of thermal compound, and if the computer room's temps aren't all that high, then another possibility is that the airflow in the case isn't good enough. I mean, if the above possibilities don't apply, then this is about the only other possibility. And so if this is the only other possibility, then it could be that the cable management needs to be improved, or that there need to be more fans in the case, or just better ones.

So, there are a several possibilities: which one or ones do you think it could be?
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I straightened it and yeah it was 55 at full load.. And I mean full load for about 30 minutes straight. Where did you hear about it only being 45? I used it stock thermal paste that was pre applied on there. Someone told me that it is fine and everything is correct and is mounted properly.

I basically connected it, but then I took the heat sink off and so the thermal paste might have been swirled around on the cpu and copper when I put it back on. Are you sure your not talking about the Tuniq Tower?

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I straightened it and yeah it was 55 at full load.. And I mean full load for about 30 minutes straight. Where did you hear about it only being 45? I used it stock thermal paste that was pre applied on there. Someone told me that it is fine and everything is correct and is mounted properly.

I basically connected it, but then I took the heat sink off and so the thermal paste might have been swirled around on the cpu and copper when I put it back on. Are you sure your not talking about the Tuniq Tower?

Thanks.
I said that your load temps with 100% stock settings should be more "like" 45°C. I mean, my Small FFTs load temps with my Tuniq Tower with this current overclock are about 50°C. I'm using its stock thermal paste (but it's not the pre-applied stuff. It came in a tube. But it's still cheap stuff). But you're getting 55°C with it NOT overclocked!! Even though Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro is inferior to the likes of the Tuniq Tower, the load temps at stock should definitely not be about 55°C. Like I said, they should be more like 45°C or something.

But you might be right: perhaps the pre-applied thermal paste has been adjusted in a bad way due to the reseating that you did (but regardless, it was a good idea to reseat it).

Anyway, what is the temperature in your computer room? Do you know what it is? If not, then how hot is it? Is it hot? Is it comfortable? Is it cold? What is it like?

And again: what is the airflow probably like in your case? What is the cable management like? If the cable management is a possible culprit, then can you post some pictures? If you decide to post pictures, use the "Manage Attachments" button which is underneath the "Submit Reply" button on the page where you type in your reply (just scroll down a bit). You can upload .jpg's directly from your HDD and they get uploaded to Overclock.net.

And not to be rude, but it's not necessary to say "thanks" after everything you say. Actually, as a friend, I should level with you: it's actually kind of annoying for some reason, but I don't fully understand why. It just is. I'm sorry.

Anyway, one more question: as I asked before, how sturdy does the CPU cooler feel? I mean, does it feel like the motherboard and the heatsink is one giant piece? Or can you move the heatsink a little bit? I mean, is it loose? Or is it tightened down so tight and secure that you can't move it? Oh, and what did you mean when you said that you straightened it out?
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NZXT tempest is rated pretty good airflow. When im saying 54-55 usually like 53-54 talking about the 1st core the second core showed 52-53 third showed like 52 and fourth about 50-51. From my research from other forums this is a normal temp for a stock speed I mean where did you read that from? Thanks.
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It kinda depends on your stepping. C1 runs pretty hot, but E0 runs pretty cool. My E0 Q9650 runs 4.14Ghz with max temps of 55C under load, but my C1 Q9550 runs 4.0 with max temps of about 67C under load, both with same VCore, same Megahalem, same Scythe Ulta Kazes. I have seen E0 Q9550 run about 10c cooler than my C1, so I don't think it's abnormal.
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I have E0 stepping. GoHigh do you have the AF 7 Pro cooler though?
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NZXT tempest is rated pretty good airflow. When im saying 54-55 usually like 53-54 talking about the 1st core the second core showed 52-53 third showed like 52 and fourth about 50-51. From my research from other forums this is a normal temp for a stock speed I mean where did you read that from? Thanks.
  • I know that the Tempest is rated pretty good for airflow, but that doesn't mean it's going to be good for everyone. There are too many variables. Two of which are the fans you're using combined with their speeds, and the other variable is the cable management. So, please answer my question so I don't have to ask a third time. Thanks.
  • Again, I did not read anywhere about the stock load temps for this CPU. I'm just making an educated guess. I'm saying that since your Q9550 is not overclocked, the load temps should not be 55°C! They should be more like 45°C or something! Maybe even a hair lower! After all, it's not overclocked and you're using a decent aftermarket CPU cooler!
  • Please answer my question about the installation of the Freezer 7 Pro.
With each reply you've given me, it looks like you're barely reading what I have typed! I mean, are you just skimming over it and then replying? Please take the time to carefully read what I am saying, as well as what everyone else will say in this thread. If you don't, then you won't really get anywhere. Agreed?

Oh, and forget the research that you did! You were likely reading about the normal load temps for an overclocked Q9550! And yes, 55°C would be a normal load temp for an overclocked Q9550, especially if it's a 1.0 GHz overclock. But again, and for the last time: you said that you have not overclocked it yet, so your load temps should be much lower.
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It kinda depends on your stepping. C1 runs pretty hot, but E0 runs pretty cool. My E0 Q9650 runs 4.14Ghz with max temps of 55C under load, but my C1 Q9550 runs 4.0 with max temps of about 67C under load, both with same VCore, same Megahalem, same Scythe Ulta Kazes. I have seen E0 Q9550 run about 10c cooler than my C1, so I don't think it's abnormal.
But we're talking about 55°C at 100% stock! If I'm not mistaken, and I'm pretty sure I'm not, 55°C at full load with 100% stock clocks and voltages is way too high, even for the Freezer 7 Pro!
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I have E0 stepping. GoHigh do you have the AF 7 Pro cooler though?
According to his sig rig, he has a "Thermalright Ultra120X Lapped". That is a lapped Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. In other words, it's a lapped TRUE. But he's referring to an overclocked 45nm Core2 Quad, not one at stock!
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E8400 E0 @ 4.0 GHz, 1.336v (full load)
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The room temp seems like normal room temp so not hot not cool.

I straightened it means when I pushed it down the CPU cooler socket just came of and I mounted it back again. This might have cause the paste to mess up and just reduce the cooling temps or unless a socket is still unmounted I should double check but I think it is mounted.

The cable managment is mostly covering the hole bottom but not too much at the top.

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The room temp seems like normal room temp so not hot not cool.

I straightened it means when I pushed it down the CPU cooler socket just came of and I mounted it back again. This might have cause the paste to mess up and just reduce the cooling temps or unless a socket is still unmounted I should double check but I think it is mounted.

The cable managment is mostly covering the hole bottom but not too much at the top.

Thanks.
But how secure does it feel? Does it feel like you could pick the motherboard up by the Freezer 7 Pro? Or does it feel like it would just pop off, or turn, or otherwise not be too secure? If it feels loose like that, then this is why the temps are so high. It needs to be very tight and very secure to get the best performance. But it could also be that the thermal paste isn't properly positioned anymore.

Do you have any pictures that you can post of the cable management? If so, then use the Manage Attachments button to upload the pic or pics directly from your hard drive as shown below:

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After you click that, then you will see this:

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Click one of the "Browse..." buttons to select a pic, and then click the "Upload" button.

But, if you don't have the ability to take a pic of the cable management, or if you don't have any pics, then nevermind of course.
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CPU
E8400 E0 @ 4.0 GHz, 1.336v (full load)
Motherboard
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