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Old 07-10-09   #21 (permalink)
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I know how a fan controller works, buddy. I know why the fans get quiet. It's not rocket science.

I also know that my fans don't push as much air at 5v as they do at 12v. Again, doesn't take much smarts to figure that one out. Less RPM=less airflow. Wow, that was hard.
Dont you get that he's trying to explain it to OP, not you. He might not know how the fancontrollers works, so i dont see the harm explaining it, just incase.

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Dont you get that he's trying to explain it to OP, not you. He might not know how the fancontrollers works, so i dont see the harm explaining it, just incase.
Yeah ok, read his posts again. He's clearly implying I don't know what I'm talking about.

OH well...it's over and done with now anyway.
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For fans, Panaflo's can get pretty crazy, and there is also the Scythe Sliptream 1900RPM fans which have a good CFM to dB ratio (and they do over 100 CFM ).

For thermal paste, the stuff that comes with the HSF is pretty much some of the best stuff you can buy. It is a little better than OCZ Freeze, and is hella better than AS5, I would just stick with it if I were you.
DO NOT GET SLIP STREAMS! They have sleeve bearings which have short life and you can definitly hear when the life is coming to the end and they undervolt terribly like the Ultra Kazes. Get the panaflo 86CFM fan or a San Ace 1011

EDIT: wow i just read this thread and probalby all the posts fail except for ljason and corky.
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Mate,
The OP is a new member. I do not know his/her level of knowledge and/or assumptions. My statement was just in case for his/her benefit.
If you think you can lower the noise and not affect your cooling performance, then well, good luck to ya. But I did not want the OP to make that assumption and thus thought a slight clarification was in order.
If correcting your idea of how a fan controller works is too complicated for you, then well ... you don't need to know. Enjoy your nice quiet computer
your new too so why would you try to over complicate this. help him with easy terms.
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Hey everyone , i just get back from work and bam so many replie's .
So im gonna buy a fan contoller i guess ,I dont know which one but im gonna look at newegg.About the fan's Panaflo's or Ace's.Thermal Paste IC9 Carat.
One thing its messing my mind.My E8500 when i run CoreTemp it's not going lower then 40c (1 Core) and 43c (2 Core),stuck sensor or something?.No matter what i do.I did lower the rpm in my fan's(front&back&topfan) nothing,i put them on highest rpm's still nothing.So i guess stuck sensor.Btw i put 1.4V in bios and its showing in CpuZ 1.376 idle and 1.344 load.Can i push further if i get better cooling?.Now in Intel Burn Test at fifth run i get 59/60c.Im not happy that much about my chip.My dream is making 4.5 Ghz stable but thats for WC.


BTW how i should apply IC9 paste? Rice Grain on the center of the cpu?

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Hey everyone , i just get back from work and bam so many replie's .
So im gonna buy a fan contoller i guess ,I dont know which one but im gonna look at newegg.About the fan's Panaflo's or Ace's.Thermal Paste IC9 Carat.
One thing its messing my mind.My E8500 when i run CoreTemp it's not going lower then 40c (1 Core) and 43c (2 Core),stuck sensor or something?.No matter what i do.I did lower the rpm in my fan's(front&back&topfan) nothing,i put them on highest rpm's still nothing.So i guess stuck sensor.Btw i put 1.4V in bios and its showing in CpuZ 1.376 idle and 1.344 load.Can i push further if i get better cooling?.Now in Intel Burn Test at fifth run i get 59/60c.Im not happy that much about my chip.My dream is making 4.5 Ghz stable but thats for WC.


BTW how i should apply IC9 paste? Rice Grain on the center of the cpu?

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And if i could i will give 2 for Corky Delson for :

Yup, and when it's time to frag, you crank those suckers all the way to the right and throw the headphones on.

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Yes. There is no need to spread the paste. When you put the cooler on and warm the system up, the IC7 will spread all on its own.
I found that putting the case on its side, running a stress test (Prime95), and giving the cooler a couple of very light twist back and forth resulted in the perfect spread.
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Hey everyone , i just get back from work and bam so many replie's .
So im gonna buy a fan contoller i guess ,I dont know which one but im gonna look at newegg.About the fan's Panaflo's or Ace's.Thermal Paste IC9 Carat.
One thing its messing my mind.My E8500 when i run CoreTemp it's not going lower then 40c (1 Core) and 43c (2 Core),stuck sensor or something?.No matter what i do.I did lower the rpm in my fan's(front&back&topfan) nothing,i put them on highest rpm's still nothing.So i guess stuck sensor.Btw i put 1.4V in bios and its showing in CpuZ 1.376 idle and 1.344 load.Can i push further if i get better cooling?.Now in Intel Burn Test at fifth run i get 59/60c.Im not happy that much about my chip.My dream is making 4.5 Ghz stable but thats for WC.


BTW how i should apply IC9 paste? Rice Grain on the center of the cpu?

AND EVERYBODY got REP+

And if i could i will give 2 for Corky Delson for :

Yup, and when it's time to frag, you crank those suckers all the way to the right and throw the headphones on.

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Why iC9 why not IC7Diamond Carat?

Your suppose to do a vertical line of paste on the CPU and not spread it and let the cooler spreads it out. for IC7Diamond though you have ot run at least a 1 hr stress test since it has a curing time and when it gets heat up between the CPU and Heatsink it spreads out.

Also get the Scythe Kaze Master fan controller i have it and its amazing!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998038

And get one of these fans.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835705002
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your new too so why would you try to over complicate this. help him with easy terms.
OK. This is why.
Say I am looking for a fan. I go for the fan with the most airflow not caring about the noise because I 'believed' a fan controller will fix the noise issue. Iget the fans, I get the fan controller home. Set everything up. Cool, everything is quiet. Overclock things. Have a little fun. Play some games ... POP!

And besides, I don't see what is so complicated! It is definitely something that as a newbie to OC/heat/fan issues, I would like to know rather than "fan controller makes things quiet" as jason was keen to push. The more information you know, the better you are able to make good decisions. But then, there are probably lots of kids here who wouldn't understand that simple concept.
What was so 'complicated' about the information I gave? You both said it was complicated, yet, the concept is an easy one. Even Jason noted so with his summary. Complicated my ***. If you have a problem with others helping when you are the 'guru', just say so and I won't try to contribute to your precious advice giving or 'your' forum. Don't push crap like it is complicated when the information given is not complicated and which may in fact help out someone who is new to the scene. If the information, I have given is too complicated for you, well, what can I say ...
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OK. This is why.
Say I am looking for a fan. I go for the fan with the most airflow not caring about the noise because I 'believed' a fan controller will fix the noise issue. Iget the fans, I get the fan controller home. Set everything up. Cool, everything is quiet. Overclock things. Have a little fun. Play some games ... POP!

And besides, I don't see what is so complicated! It is definitely something that as a newbie to OC/heat/fan issues, I would like to know rather than "fan controller makes things quiet" as jason was keen to push. The more information you know, the better you are able to make good decisions. But then, there are probably lots of kids here who wouldn't understand that simple concept.
What was so 'complicated' about the information I gave? You both said it was complicated, yet, the concept is an easy one. Even Jason noted so with his summary. Complicated my ***. If you have a problem with others helping when you are the 'guru', just say so and I won't try to contribute to your precious advice giving or 'your' forum. Don't push crap like it is complicated when the information given is not complicated and which may in fact help out someone who is new to the scene. If the information, I have given is too complicated for you, well, what can I say ...
You think someone would actually think that getting a fan controller would just make the fan quiet, yet it would still push the same amount of air? Give me a break. No one would think that. We're not all stupid here. Obviously there's side effects to turning fan speed down.
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You think someone would actually think that getting a fan controller would just make the fan quiet, yet it would still push the same amount of air? Give me a break. No one would think that. We're not all stupid here. Obviously there's side effects to turning fan speed down.
OK. But what does it hurt to clarify?

Doesn't matter. I am over this. If you don't like me trying to be helpful to people who are potentially new to OC, then ignore my posts. My original post was for the OPs benefit, not yours. Yeah, you may have known and were being smart (not everyone is as smart as you), but then again, you were not my intended audience.
Yeah, I like more information for my decision making. Too much info / too complicated for you? Do what everyone else does ... stop reading.
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