Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
     
 
Home Gallery Reviews Blogs Register Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Members List


Go Back   Overclock.net - Overclocking.net > Cooling > Air Cooling

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #1 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
intel ati

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 64

Rep: 3 os10 Unknown
Unique Rep: 2
Trader Rating: 0
Default Long-term: safe to use 20" box fan (AC power) for case cooling?

the case i have now is mid-tower with a 120mm fan in front blowing air over the HDDs, and another in back that doesn't really help, since i leave the side of the case open.

even with cool ambient temperatures (65-70F), i was getting system lockups after a couple hours of p95 stress testing. i suspect heat buildup on the NB and/or RAM - they have heatsinks but no airflow over them.

i have a 20" box fan, the cheap white plastic kind, and i set that up a few inches from the open case. with that on the system passed 12 hours of p95. using the low setting, the fan noise is mild and it still pushes a lot of air. i took off the 5.25" bay covers in front and PCI slot covers in back so the air has an escape path.

the question i have is about whether there is potential harm from having an AC motor just a few inches from the hard drives and other components. i know motors have magnets, the AC amplifies it, and magneticky stuff is bad for hard drives, so it doesn't seem like a good combination. but i have been using it like this for a couple of weeks and everything seems to be working normally.

i checked search and found a couple of threads about using a box fan for testing but i'm not clear if this is (relatively) safe for use as a permanent solution.

TIA.
__________________
System: My System
CPU
Q6600 3.6ghz 1.55v
Motherboard
Abit IP35 Pro
Memory
4GB DDR2-800 Crucial Tracer
Graphics Card
HD5850 1000/1300 1.2v
Hard Drive
VelociRaptor 150gb
Power Supply
Corsair 750W
Case
Rosewill R5601
CPU cooling
Thermalright Ultima 90
OS
Vista 64
Monitor
37" Westinghouse 1080p
os10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #2 (permalink)
4.0 GHz
 
meticadpa's Avatar
 
intel nvidia

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ghettoshiels in Scotland
Posts: 5,030

Rep: 717 meticadpa is becoming famousmeticadpa is becoming famousmeticadpa is becoming famousmeticadpa is becoming famousmeticadpa is becoming famousmeticadpa is becoming famousmeticadpa is becoming famous
Unique Rep: 510
Trader Rating: 11
Default

If you're just pushing air over all of the components, you're going to be fine. Having an AC power source near hard drives won't shorten their lives, unless they're like right on-top of them.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by TnB= Gir View Post
You and I are lesbian lovers that met up on OCN, determined not to be foiled by the grandiose breadth of the Atlantic Ocean.

Let's go with that.
The more you love music, the more music you love. ~aaronman
Quote:
Originally Posted by Syrillian View Post
Uber-high sperm-count that delivers like a lawn-sprinkler?

System: Technical Difficulties
CPU
E8500 E0 4.5GHz 1.31V
Motherboard
Asus Maximus Formula X38 (w/ RF 0803 BIOS)
Memory
4GB OCZ Blades
Graphics Card
EVGA 8800GT Akimbo
Hard Drive
WD 500GB AAKS
Sound Card
X-FI Xtreme Music (Youp Pax Drivers)
Power Supply
CoolerMaster Xtreme 650W 36A/432W on the 12V rail
Case
None.
CPU cooling
Thermalright Ultra 120a | Lapped & Washer mod |
GPU cooling
EVGA Akimbo cooler
OS
Windows Seven x64
Monitor
32" TV 1360 x 768
meticadpa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #3 (permalink)
They see me trollin'...
 
killa_concept's Avatar
 
intel ati

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 3,442

Rep: 468 killa_concept is a proven memberkilla_concept is a proven memberkilla_concept is a proven memberkilla_concept is a proven memberkilla_concept is a proven member
Unique Rep: 383
FAQs Submitted: 4
Hardware Reviews: 2
Trader Rating: 47
Default

There is no real issue with what you're doing - it takes a VERY strong magnetic force to disrupt a hard drive. The magnet in the box fan could be strong enough, but unless it's within 2-3inches of the hard drive it won't do jack. If it were to cause any negative affect, it would have happened by now.

The question is practicality and aesthetics.... IMO, you'd probably be better off strapping a 40mm fan to the northbridge or cooling it with a spotcool fan
__________________
Obsessive.....Compulsive
V...................L
E...................O
R...................C
.....................K
.....................E
.....................R

System: My excuse for being broke and socially inept
CPU
Faithful Q6600 sold - Q9550 on the way
Motherboard
DFI DK X48-T2RS
Memory
8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR2-1000
Graphics Card
Crossfired 4870s (512MB)
Hard Drive
1TB Seagate + 400GB WD + 100GB Maxtor
Sound Card
Onboard 8CH + HD
Power Supply
PC P&C Silencer 750w
Case
Modded Lian Li *cough* Rocketfish
CPU cooling
Megatron + (2) Panaflo U1 in Push/Pull
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
64bit Windows 7 Pro
Monitor
Samsung 226BW + (2) 17" LCD
killa_concept is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #4 (permalink)
Custom Techstation FTW
 
IEATFISH's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,119
Blog Entries: 1

Trader Rating: 10
Default

Try using something like HWMonitor to watch your temps. What are they getting up to under load?

System: <Name Pending>
CPU
Phenom II x4 945 @ 3.6 GHz
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P
Memory
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
Graphics Card
Asus 5850
Hard Drive
WD Caviar Black 640GB, Maxtor 400GB, WD 320GB
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Power Supply
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
Case
LIAN LI PC-7FW (custom tech station on the way)
CPU cooling
Mugen 2 w/ 2 Scythe Slip Steam 120mm
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
Monitor
Acer X223Wbd 22"
Overclock.net - 2009 Chimp Challenge Champions
IEATFISH is online now Overclocked Account IEATFISH's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #5 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
intel ati

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 64

Rep: 3 os10 Unknown
Unique Rep: 2
Trader Rating: 0
Default

killa_concept: practicality and aesthetics, not an issue for me. case and fan are not in the way and it only takes a second to flip on the fan before the computer. also i'm used to messy looking computers, all of mine have the sides off for cooling and quick access to parts.

IEATFISH: no monitoring points on the NB and RAM, or at least they aren't showing in any of Abit's OC tools. CPU is 65-75C under p95.
__________________
System: My System
CPU
Q6600 3.6ghz 1.55v
Motherboard
Abit IP35 Pro
Memory
4GB DDR2-800 Crucial Tracer
Graphics Card
HD5850 1000/1300 1.2v
Hard Drive
VelociRaptor 150gb
Power Supply
Corsair 750W
Case
Rosewill R5601
CPU cooling
Thermalright Ultima 90
OS
Vista 64
Monitor
37" Westinghouse 1080p
os10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:57 AM.


Overclock.net is a Carbon Neutral Site Creative Commons License

Terms of Service / Forum Rules | Privacy Policy | DMCA Info | Advertising | Become an Official Vendor
Copyright © 2009 Shogun Interactive Development. Most rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.12831 seconds with 8 queries