nathris

Going intel with SLI will cost you another $150 for the mobo at least, so its probably not worth it.

I think you should just stay where you are. You won't get as nice an OC with Phenoms with your motherboard as you would with a newer one, so I doubt you would see any more gaming increases.

Wait for Deneb, it would suck to pay a substantial amount for a Phenom that would get you to maybe 2.8GHz, just to have every one else running 4GHz on air with their Phenom IIs come January.

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GeforceGTS

I went from a M2N32 WS Pro and X2 4000+ to my sig rig and it's awesome ;]

Something to consider when using an AM2+ CPU with an AM2 board

I don't think it would make much difference? I've always wondered, someone care to enlighten me? ;]

bomfunk

In case of Intel, yes, since their quads and dual-cores are based on same architecture (Core2). In case of AMD, no, since Athlons (dual-core) and Phenoms (quad/tri-core) are based on distinctly different architectures, and Phenoms are much more efficient when compared to Athlons as far as clock-for-clock performance is concerned. A 9950 (AMD's best quad currently out) will at worst perform on par with a 6400+ (AMD's best dual-core out right now), and the two extra cores will always help, so I'd go Phenom.

However, the Phenom II's will blow all of AMD's current offerings out of the water, so if you can just wait a little longer, I'd go for them...

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kleptodathief

just curious, the fastest dual core amd chips can overclock to 4ghz+ (intel speed) correct?

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bomfunk

No way in hell! Current-gen AMD CPUs suck at OCing, your chip is an exceptionally high-quality freak if it makes it past 3.6GHz, usually AMD chips hit their ceiling around 3.4GHz... the upcoming Denebs OC a lot better (4GHz fairly easy).

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XxBeNigNxX

Having Both:

5000+ Black Edition

&

9850 Black Edition


I can say there is no comparison between the 2, Hands down the 9850 Black is by far superior in games.

It's not the framerates, It's the smoothness. Where as the 5000+ Black will sometimes feel like it's chugging the 9850 Black just takes it in stride.


I honestly don't care for benchmarks, I care about how it feels......And a phenom is the better choice.


By the way My 5000+ Black is OC'd to 3.3ghz

And my Phenom I keep at 3.2ghz And have had it up to 3.469ghz.


Even with the 9850 @ 3.0ghz it's better then my 5000+ Black @3.3ghz


My 5000+ Black was supposed to be my gaming rig......That changed very fast.

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carlstevenson25

ok im abit confused now about the motherboard , so if i was to wait for the phenom 2 (deneb)if thats right? could i stick to my motherboard asus m2n32sli deluxe edition or would i have to upgrade? or would my motherboard hold the cpu back ? sorry for been useless all this help is well apriciated thanks again everybody!

logan

You have an AM2+ board, so your HT speeds will be the same as the new phenom II, so in that sense, everything will be fine (the "bottleneck" will occur when running an AM2+ or AM3 chip in a plain AM2 board, because the HT speeds are different).

In another sense, your mobo wont allow for as high of OCs, as the newer SB750 boards, which as of right now, are allowing about a 100-400MHz higher OC than their SB600 counterparts.

The SB750 is supposed to be the key to overclocking a Phenom II, which makes it a really hard choice what to do right now. I would either get a SB750 board right now, and change nothing else untill jan, or I would get nothing now, and then after you get a deneb, you can decide about if you want to get a new mobo or not.

If you absolutely cant wait for an upgrade... I would get the 8750 BE, because its in a good price/performance spot right now (will OC to 3.5GHz on a SB750, and is $135...).

Good luck with whatever you do.

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carlstevenson25

thanks for that explaination i understand now i think ill wait till january then get a phenom II an see where i stand from there cheers mate an i must say this site is mustard!