grahamcrackuh

And to respond to the comment two above my initial.

Obviously the reason the q6600 performs so much worse than an e8400 is things aren't scripted quad core yet. But the fact is, for non-synthetic benchmarks, the e8400 sees more practical results (faster times in seconds practical benchmarks, more fps in games). What's the point of going for a quad core if a 50 dollar cheaper dual core can give you much nicer results?

I guess some people just really like being able to say "I have FOUR cores". Or maybe enjoy monitoring 4 cores at once and watching the pretty graphs.

iandh

Go away intel troll


Phenom II is on average 10% faster than Q6600, and 3% slower than penryn/yorkfield which includes the E8400.

Add to that the fact that it is a Quad and not a dual, clocks just as high as most duals, has an unlocked multi, and you can get an AWESOME OC'ing board for $60 with it... the E8400 doesn't hold a candle, sorry.



Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3 both utilize four cores, and while Crysis doesn't increase in FPS, it doesnt increase in framerate stability. Have fun riding on your dual core bandwagon, I'll stay on my quad core bandwagon kthx.



edit: Oh, and barely perceptible difference =/= "much nicer"


edit 2: Also, "most people" are NOT achieving 4.3Ghz on E8400's... some people are. Some people can't even hit 4Ghz stable. How many E8400's have you seen toasted because people overvolted them in an attempt to reach their "guaranteed" 4Ghz?

Grandpa_01

Perhaps you should read the GURU3D Review where they tested it against an E8400, an I7 940, Q6600 etc

http://guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom...-review-test/1

And you might want to check out Xtremesystems for the overclocks they are acheiveing maybe a little more research is needed.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=58

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Tjingsted

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...review-test/17 They're all the same

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...review-test/18
Where did the E8400 go?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...review-test/19
Both I7 920 and E8400 gets pwnd


I know a lot of the sources differs, like a lot!
But no way that the e8400 will take the Phenom big time in everything.

Might be that the e8400 can take the II in some games, but not everyone runs a fully-optimized-reinstalled-every-second-week-program-less-tweaked-OS.

Some of us actually have Anti-virus and firewalls... And even programs running when we game!



Go for the 940 it got unlocked multi for higher overclocks

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grahamcrackuh

Well I think the second two things you linked were irrelevant. Brothers in arms isn't a good CPU benchmark @ all and the other would probably say a 9950 be on a 790g chipset beats an i7 . THough I do understand that the Phenom ii is probably better with things running in background, mucked up OSes, etc. Pure gaming power, I'm still gonna have to side with the e8400 tho.

grahamcrackuh

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grahamcrackuh

I think it's fair to say that the Phenom ii series competes with Intel's core 2 quad series. (the "still one step behind" analogy used by one article). But as we've seen, the core 2 duo is still outperforming core 2 quad in over 50% of the benchmarks (per q3 cpu charts on tomshardware) since so many applications aren't multi-thread yet. I would compare the phenom ii decision to the e8500 or q6600 debate.

chinese_lover

i think the phenom 2 and Q9550 from intel are close when it comes to quads,
i was going to go with a Q9550 till amd brought these out,
mainly i do alot of 3d modeling and texturing in photoshop,
some zbrush work on my wacom and the some gaming,
if the intel quad would drop still might get it,
but the Q9550 is $299 plus tax right now at microcenter and $314 on newegg,
compared to $275 for the phenom 940 on newegg and $334 combo with mb,
the 4gb ram i want is $55 on newegg and $24 after rebate,
so if i get the cpu and mb combo and ram deal,
that is under $400 what i wanted,
just trying to say amd price point is hard to beat,
im still waiting maybe till end of the month to see what happens,
do you think these phenom 940 will go down any from $275 price,
do you think intel Q9550 will come down in price any,

Grandpa_01

Most likley both will come down. If the AMDs are as good as they appear to be so far there is going to be quite a bit of compition for the mid range market.

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chinese_lover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors
should i wait till feb for the Socket AM3 to come out,
i saw there is a Phenom II X4 945 coming out for it,
if so does anyone know the cost for the 945 cpu,
also will the am3 mb and ram cost more or can you use ddr2 on it,