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Old 02-13-09   #11 (permalink)
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I like the PSU also. You can't have enough power options, and that PCP&C is awesome.
OK I finished my previous posts with a few edits.

*EDIT* Here is the cooler you want - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835207004
The paste that comes with it is actually pretty good, but the OCZ Freze is still better.
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Stay with the bigger PSU.. The Bigger the better. If you get a PSU thats too big that means it has to work less to support your rig. Its always better to have too much than not enough or just enough.
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Yeah, quite a few things.

1. Get OCZ Freeze instaed of AS5. You will thank me.
2. Get the WD Caviar Black 640GB HDD - It beats a VelociRaptor
3. Scythe S-Flex fans instaed of Slipstream - sleeve bearing fans are POS.
4. Get the Samsung or LG ODD - Sony Optirac is not Sony. These are garbage. I speak from bad personal experience.
5. CPU cooler. You can do better. We need to know what the size constarints are, but no, no, no for the Asus.
Than you very much for the advice and here's my situation. My mom is actually buying this for me so it is very important that I keep it under 1200 or it won't happen.

1. Is the thermal compound that big of a difference? Is it worth delaying the entire build?
2. The HDD is out of my budget
3. Also out of my price range 16$ v. 8$
4. I probably won't ever burn a DVD on this rig that's what the macbook is for. So will this make much of a differance. Really it will be for installing OS and then games maybe some video watching but thats what my PS3 is for. (now i just realized how dumb I am spreading my tech all out when I could get a better deal just pushing it all into a PC oh well live and learn.)
5. Dimensions on the case are 17.3" x 7.9" x 19.5"

What I will most likely do is attach the stock CPU cooler and then send the ASUS back for a full refund and I'll drop the money for the thermal compound with the other CPU cooler.

Thanks for the help +rep for sure and nice latin
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Than you very much for the advice and here's my situation. My mom is actually buying this for me so it is very important that I keep it under 1200 or it won't happen.

1. Is the thermal compound that big of a difference? Is it worth delaying the entire build?
2. The HDD is out of my budget
3. Also out of my price range 16$ v. 8$
4. I probably won't ever burn a DVD on this rig that's what the macbook is for. So will this make much of a differance. Really it will be for installing OS and then games maybe some video watching but thats what my PS3 is for. (now i just realized how dumb I am spreading my tech all out when I could get a better deal just pushing it all into a PC oh well live and learn.)
5. Dimensions on the case are 17.3" x 7.9" x 19.5"

What I will most likely do is attach the stock CPU cooler and then send the ASUS back for a full refund and I'll drop the money for the thermal compound with the other CPU cooler.

Thanks for the help +rep for sure and nice latin
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Yes the thermal paste makes a huge difference. I was using AS5 for years, and then got some OCZ freeze. It dropped my temps 5-7*C on my CPU and video cards. Also, the OCZ Freeze is not electrically conductive. That is muy importante.
As for the hard drive, then get a WD or Samsung that is within your price range. The Caviar Blue or SE16 are great drives also, just not as fast.
The fan is not a huge deal, but when you have the $$$ and are looking for a good fan, nothing beats an S-Flex for 120x25mm fans.
I just had a really bad time with Optiarc drives. I was getting read errors after 2 days. RMA'd and got another one, same thing. Just poor quality control. Like I said, LG, Samsung, Asus, or LiteOn. Anything but Optiarc.
For the CPU cooler, I linked one in my previous post. It should fit just fine. It is a very good cooler, comes with decent paste, and is cheaper than the Asus, even after the MIR.
Best of luck on this build. Don't forget to take pics and share your results.
The main parts of the rig (CPU,mobo,PSU, RAM) are all very good solid choices. You will be very happy with it. I was just freaking out because the smaller details were being overlooked, and these will affect performance as much as major hardware will. You have to take every advantage you can with technology.
Best of luck

BTW Thanks for noticing my Latin. It is why my advice is halfway decent (I hope). I don't have much else to think about
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shoulda stuck with the patriot. i got wicked tight timings @ 2.0v 1066mhz. was pretty cheap for my 4gb kit here in canada/.
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shoulda stuck with the patriot. i got wicked tight timings @ 2.0v 1066mhz. was pretty cheap for my 4gb kit here in canada/.
The G. Skill PI works very well also, and since he got it in a combo deal, the price was probably to good to pass up.
I do agree that the Patriot RAM would be better because it can OC so much better. G. Skill bins their RAM to what speeds it can reach, so OCing it is very difficult to do. I think the OP should be fine though. As long as it runs at stock settings he will be in good shape.
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Havent attempted to OC my memory yet being as i have an BE amd chip so i figured that 1066mhz was plenty fast enough and with the right timings its got all the snap in the world i could ask for. sure am kickin myself in the arse for getting my 9950 BE when i did cause the P2 looks so much more promising and more fun to play with. My 9950 is supposed to be a 125w version and the thing gets insanely hot at even the smallest overclocks
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LOL. The order has already been placed. Besides he is on a real world budget. The PhII 940 CPU will blow any Intel chip within the same price range out of the frakking water anyways. He has the best that his $$$ will buy.

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Havent attempted to OC my memory yet being as i have an BE amd chip so i figured that 1066mhz was plenty fast enough and with the right timings its got all the snap in the world i could ask for. sure am kickin myself in the arse for getting my 9950 BE when i did cause the P2 looks so much more promising and more fun to play with. My 9950 is supposed to be a 125w version and the thing gets insanely hot at even the smallest overclocks
The 125W coupled with the 65nm tech is what gives you those temps. AMD chips are notorious for running hot, but the new PhIIs are doing much better on temps, and therefore getting the higher overclocks. I have a 90nm chip that runs at 125W, and it has taken me some time to figure out how to control these temps. The thing about both of our chips is that they are essentially factory OC'd versions of lesser chips. AMD does this to entice the buyer with higher stock settings, but the problem is that the end user can get the same OCs themselves with the cheaper CPUs, and the high-end chips don't OC very well. I feel your pain brother
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man i wish i lived in the states. Id love to pick up a pair of 4850s for crossfire for my rig. of course my gtx 260 is no slouch by any means. But 135$ 4850 is an absolute steal
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