ENTERPRISE

Yes your AM2 can get some love lol. I will soon be adding an AM2 section !.

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AmericanNightmare

Thanks! Sure doesn't seem to be a lot of people overclocking these chips at the moment.

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Thread Updated and Overhauled.

I now take AM2 steppings and information.

Please dont hesitate to PM me

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When including OC info can you also please tell me your current V-core !

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Devon

i just got a LCBQE opteron 170 its a 0722 so i think its the last of them overclocks to 2.8ghz and will boot at stock i have the vcore at 1.4 right now.

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AmericanNightmare

Alright here is my deal. I truly don't understand why everyone makes a big deal out of 939 Optys. I am not trying to be arguementative here truly i am not. That being said it seems to me that the AM2 Optys overclock just as well maybe better,am i biased damn right i am but take this in consideration.

1. Very bad board for overclocking@ 2.83 stable (stock 1.35v)
2. cheap Win Ampo DDR-667
3. onboard graphics

Am i lonley, yes. Do i think others should consider the AM2 Optys absolutely!

If i can acheive this with my horrid setup imagine what could be done with a sweet one?

No horn tooting here honestly it just seems to me that well...939 nice for nostalgia but maybe time to think about future proofing in light of the performance recorded for the AM2 Optys (not just mine there are others on HWBOT,ripping.org,AMDGeeks and so on that support this).

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Im afraid you cant really make a direct comparison between 939 and AM2 due to the fact they have a different memory controller which can affect an overclock alot. AM2 Opterons are very nice though I do agree. However AM2 is nothing special due to the fact the only main difference is the memory controller being able to accept DDR2 standards.

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AmericanNightmare

Ok far be it from me to question the Director, but it seems the above statment is contradictory..I can't make a direct comparison b/c the AM2 Optys have a different memory contoller which can affect overclocking alot. Then we have..."However AM2 is nothing special due to the fact the only main difference is the memory controller being able to accept DDR2 standards."

This was the point is was trying to make, why do so many people still buy 939 Optys when (and i am not trying to make a direct comparison other than that the AM2 Santa Anas are on par with some of the best steppimg Denmarks as far as overclocking goes) when you are relagating yourself too obsolescence by doing so?

I am not trying to say the AM2 Optys are superior rather than are they again on at the least on par with the 939's and have the advantage of not being installed into a soon to be dead socket....

In other words I see nothing too gain from buying a Denmark 165 or 170 as opposed too a 1210 or 1212 and a lot to gain by choosing the 1210 or 1212 i.e. future proofing yourself with an AM2 mobo.

How many ways do i have to say it?

I will let my HWBOT speak for itself as far as benchmarks go.

ENTERPRISE

Well when I said there was nothing special about AM2 I was getting at the fact that AM2 is barely an improvement on architecture other than the memory controller. I know you were not debating that,however I felt it prudent to mention it.

AM2 may indeed be on par with 939 opties. However that is still not much of a reason to go AM2. Yes you get the added speeds of DDR2 however that is all you obtain. AM2 was AMD's socket to get a foothold into the DDR2 standards...it was created simply to keep up with Intel and C2D...lets face it

Now as AM2 architecture offers very little over 939 there isn't much of a ''Push factor'' to go to AM2....AM3 and K10 now thats a different story all together.

With Intel users there was a large pushing factor to move from Intel P4 and Dual core to C2D because C2D was a completely new architecture all together. C2D did not only incorperate DDR2 standards but the architecture was completely different or atleast vastly improved on compared to P4. Not only that but C2D was 65nm.

Overall what im trying to say is that with AM2 and 939 there really isnt much difference so the push factor to get AM2 is very little...well atleast in my eyes.

However in comparision to the Intel story this is very different.

Dont worry I do see what you are saying and its a valid point so please dont think im bashing or anything. I was just stating a point alongside yours !.

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Yeah well i'll blame it on the 12 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbons i got a little fired up that night/morning Drinking and posting don't always mix.......