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Rolandooo · 01-30-08

Extract the .Rar file for orthos, then open the Orthos.Exe and You should get this

Make sure its on "Blend - Stress CPU and Ram"

Right below that you see "Priority" its already on 1, hit the arrow and click 9

Now hit "Start" and let it run for 8+ Hours.

blitz6804 · 01-30-08

Results from OCCT are in.

"System is STABLE"

Max temperatures under load were 51/56º C.

Rolandooo · 01-30-08

Thats good news so far, only thing concerning me is your temps. They are high for stock voltage.

Hows the airflow in the case?

blitz6804 · 01-30-08

I would assume the airflow is a bit inturrupted by the large morass of wires. As I said, this case has 5 case fans in it, and as such, there are wires running everywhere. I am going to try to get them rerouted nicely when I replace them with the new fans which should be arriving today.

As to the actual fans:

Front: Intake
Top: Intake
Back: Output
Side Up: Output
Side Down: Output
PCI-Fan: Output

Rolandooo · 01-30-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6804

I would assume the airflow is a bit inturrupted by the large morass of wires. As I said, this case has 5 case fans in it, and as such, there are wires running everywhere. I am going to try to get them rerouted nicely when I replace them with the new fans which should be arriving today.

As to the actual fans:

Front: Intake
Top: Intake
Back: Output
Side Up: Output
Side Down: Output
PCI-Fan: Output

Yeah cable management helped me in the past by atleast 5c. Great temp drops.

You appear to have many outputs, I would play around with your new fans and see what works best.

blitz6804 · 01-30-08

While you are available, I have a question on my RAID configuration. At present, I have a 64 KB stripe size on my RAID 0 partition. I was considering dropping that down to 16 KB when I reformat/repartition for Windows Vista Ultimate.

Would that cause an increase of performance? Is it better to leave it at 64 KB? The computer is both a gaming and media box. I play such games as Civilization IV, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, SimCity 4 and many others. The computer is also used for video ripping and encoding. The primary use of the computer however is instant messaging, web browsing, and music listening, where the music folder takes up about 14.5 GB.

About how long would it take for Orthos to complete each round do you think? It is 32 minutes into testing, and is so completed through to Test 4, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M157695 using 8K FFT length.

Rolandooo · 01-30-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6804

While you are available, I have a question on my RAID configuration. At present, I have a 64 KB stripe size on my RAID 0 partition. I was considering dropping that down to 16 KB when I reformat/repartition for Windows Vista Ultimate.

Would that cause an increase of performance? Is it better to leave it at 64 KB? The computer is both a gaming and media box. I play such games as Civilization IV, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, SimCity 4 and many others. The computer is also used for video ripping and encoding. The primary use of the computer however is instant messaging, web browsing, and music listening, where the music folder takes up about 14.5 GB.

About how long would it take for Orthos to complete each round do you think? It is 32 minutes into testing, and is so completed through to Test 4, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M157695 using 8K FFT length.

Okay about the Raid question I am unsure about that, Possibly start a new thread in the hard drive section, and see what they tell you. I will keep my eye open and see what they say because I would like to know aswell. I have 64 kb Stipe aswell.

No about Orthos, it all depends on the speed of your processor to determine how fast it completes a round. Its been so long since I ran a test I forgot how fast mine would complete a round.

Iconoclast · 01-30-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6804

I have the following hardware configuration:

AMD X2 4400+ Toledo JH-E6
Zalman CNPS9500 LED
2048 MB Corsair XMS 400 PRO RAM
Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939
Visiontek x1950xtx RADEON 256 MB AGP
Western Digital Caviar 80 GB SATA-150 (x2)
Western Digital Caviar 120 GB PATA
Pioneer DVD+-RW/CD-RW
Sony CR-RW

I used to have that same motherboard paired with a 3200+ venice. I brought her from the stock 2.0 to 2.6 on stock voltages along with a RAM overclock from ddr400 to ddr500, again stock voltages. I still have that board running in my server. To be honest, the board really isn't that bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6804

The computer runs 40/44º C at idle, and about 46/50º C under load according to CoreTemp 0.96.1. I do not know why, but Core 1 is always 4º hotter than Core 0. If I check temperatures in the BIOS, it only shows one number, and that is usually 4º C cooler than Core 0 in Windows.

Don't worry about the temp difference between cores, that's normal. But your idle and load temps are a bit high given your cpu cooler and the amount of fans you have circulating air in your case. You should reseat the heat sink with some Arctic Silver 5 thermal interface material. You can find some pretty cheap, like $5 for a small tube.

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

Footnote: I have ordered another 2 GB of DDR400 RAM. This time, it is Corsair XMS DDR400, non-pro version. Same stock latencies/FSB, just no LED RAM activity lights on the heat spreaders.

XP won't recognize more than 3gbs of ram. And the 4gb is effectively useless at this point in the game, unless you're doing auto cad or photo/video editing. Also, motherboards don't usually like to have all 4 dimm slots filled and overclock at the same time.

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

P.S.: I forgot to mention. My motherboard is not exactly reliable. I tell it to make the FSB 200, and it will be 201. I tell it to be 220, and it is 220.1. The latter is much less important, but still bares mentioning. As to voltages: they are not fully stable either. If I set the RAM/CPU voltages to "Auto" as they are now, the CPU is usually running at 1.32-1.33 V. I do not want to explictly tell the CPU to run at 1.35 V, as then cool-'n-quiet wont work anymore. I am most of the time not taxing the processor, and so would like to save the electricity. When I AM running it though, I am maxing that sucker out, hence the overclock.

That board is reliable. I've had her for about 4-5 years now and she's still running. Your core speed and voltage fluctuations are normal.
Turn off Cool'n'quiet and get yourself a fan controller. The Sunbeam Rheobus is good one. And if you want to control more than 4 fans, use 3 pin "Y" splitter cables to connect 2 fans to one controller - so you could control 8 fans on that 4 knobed rheobus.

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

The computer is overclocked as follows:
System bus up to 220 instead of 200
HT multiplier is at the default 4
CPU and RAM voltages are both at "Auto"
RAM latencies: 2.5-3-3-6-T1

At presen then, my CPU is running at 2.36 GHz (220 MHz * 11) with an 880 HT. The RAM is 440 MHz.

In order to push your overclock higher, you may have to increase the divider your ram runs at. Set it to 2/1.83 and then increase your bus speed, slowly, until she gives you trouble, then downclock her a bit to find the stable middle ground. Your ram should loosen the timings a bit based on it's SPD. Use cpu-z, speedfan and prime95 or orthos to test the stability of your system.

Good luck.

blitz6804 · 01-30-08

My previous board (a socket 754 Asus) never had FSB fluctuations. Maybe that is just the difference between 939 and 754?

As I said later in the thread, I have not yet hit a hardware wall with this overclock, just a willpower one. I am utterly fearful of accidentally roasting a component, and thus, my desire to slowly advance on the ideal clock.

My case came with a fan speed controller, but I did not like it. The fan speed controller you recommend will not fit in my case. Instead, the fans I am putting in have thermometers on them that will automatically adjust their RPMs as needed.

As to RAM, I will be changing over to Vista soon, which is supposed to see/use more RAM than Experience. However, I do realize that my RAM is limited until I get a 64-bit system. Given the price of RAM however, 2x1024 MB more RAM was cheaper than 2x512 MB of RAM.

And yes, I do video and photo editing. I have occasionally been told "Windows has ran out of virtual memory" which requires me to restart the computer to resume editing. Window's Virtual memory is set for 4-8 GB.

Rolandooo: I have posted my question with HDD: http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...ripe-size.html

Addendum: Orthos is now up to 3 hours, and the third 20k test. 1024k, 8k, 10k, 896k, 768k, 12k, 14k, 640k, and 512k have all completed without incident. During testing, core temps are ranging between 49/54º C and 52/57º. That is still within the "safe" threshold of 65º for the AMD X2 4400+, but I can see how it might be a possible problem if I try to dial the components up some more. As I said, I will be replacing the case fans likely later today, rewiring neater, and installing the other 2 GB. Well, provided the snow does not stop UPS from bringing me my Newegg order.

Rolandooo · 01-30-08

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6804

My previous board (a socket 754 Asus) never had FSB fluctuations. Maybe that is just the difference between 939 and 754?

As I said later in the thread, I have not yet hit a hardware wall with this overclock, just a willpower one. I am utterly fearful of accidentally roasting a component, and thus, my desire to slowly advance on the ideal clock.

My case came with a fan speed controller, but I did not like it. The fan speed controller you recommend will not fit in my case. Instead, the fans I am putting in have thermometers on them that will automatically adjust their RPMs as needed.

As to RAM, I will be changing over to Vista soon, which is supposed to see/use more RAM than Experience. However, I do realize that my RAM is limited until I get a 64-bit system. Given the price of RAM however, 2x1024 MB more RAM was cheaper than 2x512 MB of RAM.

And yes, I do video and photo editing. I have occasionally been told "Windows has ran out of virtual memory" which requires me to restart the computer to resume editing. Window's Virtual memory is set for 4-8 GB.

Rolandooo: I have posted my question with HDD: http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...ripe-size.html

Addendum: Orthos is now up to 3 hours, and the third 20k test. 1024k, 8k, 10k, 896k, 768k, 12k, 14k, 640k, and 512k have all completed without incident. During testing, core temps are ranging between 49/54º C and 52/57º. That is still within the "safe" threshold of 65º for the AMD X2 4400+, but I can see how it might be a possible problem if I try to dial the components up some more. As I said, I will be replacing the case fans likely later today, rewiring neater, and installing the other 2 GB. Well, provided the snow does not stop UPS from bringing me my Newegg order.

Thats good to hear, 3 hours strong! thats very good news, if it was to fail now its most likely a CPU voltage issue.

Keep it updated, and hopefully we find out whats burning your processor up.

Have you tried "Everest"?

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