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View Poll Results: What would be the best upgrade option?
940be 17 56.67%
720be 8 26.67%
810 1 3.33%
just keep system and wait for the new am3 chip and chipsets and 5000 series card 4 13.33%
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Old 05-19-09   #1 (permalink)
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Default Phenom II 940be vs 720be vs 810?

Good news! Someone's gonna buy my quad so i can go phenom 2.

So basically i'm so tossed with wanting an unlocked quad that has can't go am3, a cheaper quad with less cache and unlocked multi and better upgrade path, or an unlocked tri that with better upgrade path.

If i go 940be, i'll have to sell my mobo as well and buy a new one. and i'll be stuck with an onboard graphics for 2-3 weeks. and get a 4770

If i go 810, i can still use my old mobo, and get a better psu for a future 4890 within 2-3 weeks.

Same goes for a 720be with the 810. except that i can sell my mobo, can go am3 with ddr3 but will be stuck with the onboard graphics for about 2-3 weeks. I can also get an am2+ mobo, use my ram and buy a 4770, then get another one within 2-3 weeks. and this is without getting to have upgrade my psu.

Your call. I'm so itchy to spend within this week
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940BE I would say.
I have had the chance to compare both the 720 and 940 on the same exact hardware recently.
Roughly 3500 on the 720BE and 4500 on the 940BE with 3dmark06.
940 @ 3.4 (stock volt)
720 @ 3.2 (stock volt)
They are both really good overclockers and if you want 'better' overclocking I would go with the 720 because it runs WAY cooler.

I used the stock cooler from the 940 on the 720.
And a Zalman CNPS9700 on the 940.
The 940 hits over 50c on load @ 3.4 and the 720 only hit around 35c @ 3.2.

Now there's also the whole DDR3 bit.
It's slightly better than ddr2... It's a little more expensive... Not a deal make/breaker but something to consider if you do want ddr3 for future purposes.

The 810 I wouldn't really look at because it's kind of the bottom of the line for the am3 quads.
It's also not a BE so it would be 'harder' to OC if you did want to.

Eitherway, since you want an opinion, I would stick with the 940BE and stay on am2/ddr2
Hopefully this will help you make your own decision though
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940BE I would say.
I have had the chance to compare both the 720 and 940 on the same exact hardware recently.
Roughly 3500 on the 720BE and 4500 on the 940BE with 3dmark06.
940 @ 3.4 (stock volt)
720 @ 3.2 (stock volt)
They are both really good overclockers and if you want 'better' overclocking I would go with the 720 because it runs WAY cooler.

I used the stock cooler from the 940 on the 720.
And a Zalman CNPS9700 on the 940.
The 940 hits over 50c on load @ 3.4 and the 720 only hit around 35c @ 3.2.

Now there's also the whole DDR3 bit.
It's slightly better than ddr2... It's a little more expensive... Not a deal make/breaker but something to consider if you do want ddr3 for future purposes.

The 810 I wouldn't really look at because it's kind of the bottom of the line for the am3 quads.
It's also not a BE so it would be 'harder' to OC if you did want to.

Eitherway, since you want an opinion, I would stick with the 940BE and stay on am2/ddr2
Hopefully this will help you make your own decision though
thanks. the next upgrade after this will be bulldozer. you think it's it'll be worth sticking with an am2+ socket by then?
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thanks. the next upgrade after this will be bulldozer. you think it's it'll be worth sticking with an am2+ socket by then?
Not if you're concerned with staying with the thrends/future. By 2011 AM2+ will be well old -still functioning- but old. Im still holding my breath for the 800 series chipset. I wont upgrade until then.
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Not if you're concerned with staying with the thrends/future. By 2011 AM2+ will be well old -still functioning- but old. Im still holding my breath for the 800 series chipset. I wont upgrade until then.
yeah that's another concern too. but apparently the 800 series are all ddr3 i suppose. but i'm not that worried with the 5xxx series though since i'm sure i can easily sell the 4770. why the heck do they always have to delay these things

so it's a 720be then? the thing is, i can get a used 940be for only $160 in my place. i already contacted him. i'll just have to verify it by friday.
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The 940 BE is really a big improvement over your current chip and you will want to keep it for a while. It Overclocks like Crazy...
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If someone else is buying it then why not go Phenom II 940 BE

720 BE is still a solid chip for the price if they don't want to spend too much.

810 sucks because the multiplier is locked
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The 940 BE is really a big improvement over your current chip and you will want to keep it for a while. It Overclocks like Crazy...
by the looks of your mobo, you don't plan to go am3 till.....bulldozer as well?

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but cheaper and has a better upgrade path
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I was honestly upset when they dropped the prices of the 940, because i would have gotten that instead of the 720. But, now in hindsight im sorta happy i have the 720 because it will make the transfer to AM3 800 series much easier on my wallet. But who knows how good of a CPU it will be at that point in time. Whereas the 940 will probably still be good at that point, but you may be losing out on the new fangled trends of OCing that will come with new technology(i'm crossing my fingers that there will be some).

Its tough to make the initial jump, but once you do all you can think about is how to make it better. What a PITA, huh?
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I guess another thing to consider is if you get a 940, you can in the future build an entirely new machine and give the old AM2+ to a friend or family, or just keep it for folding. That way you dont have old parts laying about that could almost make a machine, but instead two working rigs.

I dunno, just throwing ideas your way.

Also, i dunno about you but im getting tired of my 780/700 chipset.
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