Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
     
 
Home Gallery Reviews Blogs Register Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Members List


Go Back   Overclock.net - Overclocking.net > AMD > AMD CPUs

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-04-09   #1 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
amd ati

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20

Rep: 1 Adamantin Unknown
Unique Rep: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default Help OC'ing the old x2 4400+

Ok so i recently got the x2 4400+ and i would like to clock it to no more than 2.8ghz and i'll be ok for now...
i've got the next specs :
CPU:
x2 4400+ (brisbane) 2.3 ghz stock stepping 2 revision bh-g2
RAM:
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 G (2 gigs 4-4-4-12)
Motherboard
Biostar TA780 M2+ HP
HFS:
Pentagram Freezone-90
ok im not very experienced oc'er but i've done it few times (on e2200) and watched my bigger brother doing it all the time so i decided to clock this chip a bit seems like the mb ram and cooling are fine...
now first time when i tried to oc it i used the t ocing utility from biostar i just bumped the fsb to 220 or something like that it was fine for a few mins but then froze... next i went into the bios and started to look for cool n quiet so i disable it ( i thought thats tha issue ) but i couldnt find it then i googled it and found there was an option in the Power Options (in control panel btw im using windows xp x86 sp2) and i put the option some people said that it would disable cnq (home/office desk) and i applied that power scheme and went straight into bios and bumped the fsb from there and it booted all fine i clocked it to 2530 mhz and it was fine for a few mins in prime95 then i went with 3dmark06 and it passed it fine and then when i wanted to compare the previos results it froze again so thats my question ... what do i do next or i didnt even disable cnq or theres another issues... NOTE: i only upped the fsb so i think thats the problem the HT went to 1100 and the mem to 421mhz or something like that when at stock it was at 384mhz
plz help me i will appreciate any help and another note sorry about my english not my primare lang..
__________________
System: My Modest System
CPU
AMD Athlon x2 4400+ 2.3@2.8
Motherboard
Biostar TA780G M2+ HP
Memory
2 GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 @ 400MHz
Graphics Card
Sapphire HD4670 512/128 HDMI Edition
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB Sata II
Sound Card
On Board Realtek
Power Supply
LinkWorld 450W
CPU cooling
Pentagram Freezone HP-90
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows XP SP2 x86
Adamantin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #2 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
amd ati

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20

Rep: 1 Adamantin Unknown
Unique Rep: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default



cpu-z screenes @ stock
__________________
System: My Modest System
CPU
AMD Athlon x2 4400+ 2.3@2.8
Motherboard
Biostar TA780G M2+ HP
Memory
2 GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 @ 400MHz
Graphics Card
Sapphire HD4670 512/128 HDMI Edition
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB Sata II
Sound Card
On Board Realtek
Power Supply
LinkWorld 450W
CPU cooling
Pentagram Freezone HP-90
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows XP SP2 x86
Adamantin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #3 (permalink)
AMD Overclocker
 
SubstancenUnknown's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 966

Rep: 103 SubstancenUnknown is acknowledged by manySubstancenUnknown is acknowledged by many
Unique Rep: 63
Trader Rating: 14
Default

If you can bump the voltages up a little bit that will help stabilize the OC...
__________________
PhII 940 @ 4ghz
3DMark 06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane1244 View Post
Maybe I can come over to your house and we can play some SuperPi? Then later on we can set up a LAN and play 3D Mark Vantage?

System: Unknown
CPU
PhenomII 720 x3 3.811ghz
Motherboard
M3A79-t
Memory
1066 G-Skill 4gb
Graphics Card
Sapphire Vapor-X 4890 975/1100
Hard Drive
2 X WD250 RE3/Raid 0
Sound Card
Razor Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
PC P&C 750
Case
Rocketfish
CPU cooling
D-Tek V2/PA 120.3 w/3x san ace 1011
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Win7 (build 7068) x64/ XP x86
Monitor
Acer 22''
SubstancenUnknown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #4 (permalink)
what the pho
 
intel ati

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: California
Posts: 3,316

Rep: 256 guyladouche is a proven memberguyladouche is a proven memberguyladouche is a proven member
Unique Rep: 223
Hardware Reviews: 5
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Check your CPU voltage.

If there's the option, I'd set the RAM to below 400MHz.

Also, I cannot confirm this from a personal experience, but many people have said that the AM2 CPU's do not handle half-multipliers well when overclocking (problems with the integrated memory controller)--so perhaps setting the multi to 11 and overclocking from there might be better.

I'm almost convinced that you need more CPU voltage though--you might be able to OC on the stock 1.28v, but not necessarily.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
And NEVER go AS5 to mouth!
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
We're geeks.... so can you explain this vagina thing?

System: My Middle-of-the-Road System
CPU
Intel E2180 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P35-DS3P rev. 2.0
Memory
2x1GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Graphics Card
MSI HD4670 512MB (850/2100)
Hard Drive
2x160GB SATA Seagate 7200.10 RAID0,+80G+300G+500G
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy
Power Supply
Antec SmartPower 450w
Case
Antec 900
CPU cooling
Zalman CNPS-9700LED
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
XP Pro SP2
Monitor
Samsung SyncMaster 930B
guyladouche is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #5 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
amd ati

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20

Rep: 1 Adamantin Unknown
Unique Rep: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post
Check your CPU voltage.

If there's the option, I'd set the RAM to below 400MHz.

Also, I cannot confirm this from a personal experience, but many people have said that the AM2 CPU's do not handle half-multipliers well when overclocking (problems with the integrated memory controller)--so perhaps setting the multi to 11 and overclocking from there might be better.

I'm almost convinced that you need more CPU voltage though--you might be able to OC on the stock 1.28v, but not necessarily.
ok i'll drop it to 11 and bout the voltage dont care much bout it i just want/must keep it below 1.45
ok so my biggest problem is with the memory speed and timings...
heres the list of wat bios says (their all set at auto i think i stated it in first post tho):
cas latency (cl)
trcd
trp
trtp
tras
trc
twr
trrd
trwtto
twrrd
twtr
twrwr
trdrd
trfc0
trfc1
trfc2
trfc3
trfc4 not sure about this one tho

so which do i have to change
__________________
System: My Modest System
CPU
AMD Athlon x2 4400+ 2.3@2.8
Motherboard
Biostar TA780G M2+ HP
Memory
2 GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 @ 400MHz
Graphics Card
Sapphire HD4670 512/128 HDMI Edition
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB Sata II
Sound Card
On Board Realtek
Power Supply
LinkWorld 450W
CPU cooling
Pentagram Freezone HP-90
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows XP SP2 x86
Adamantin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #6 (permalink)
AMD Overclocker
 
SubstancenUnknown's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 966

Rep: 103 SubstancenUnknown is acknowledged by manySubstancenUnknown is acknowledged by many
Unique Rep: 63
Trader Rating: 14
Default

If you are going to change the timings only change the ones listed in your CPU-z (SPD) and i wouldnt cahnge them untill you have your CPU OC'ed and stable then move on to the Memory...So for know just set them in this order in your CPU-Z read out

5,5,5,18,22 @ 2.1 volts. Edit: set it one step down for know if you are going to be OC'ing the Bus speeds.. just leave it at those timings thou ( Just for know anyways)
__________________
PhII 940 @ 4ghz
3DMark 06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane1244 View Post
Maybe I can come over to your house and we can play some SuperPi? Then later on we can set up a LAN and play 3D Mark Vantage?

System: Unknown
CPU
PhenomII 720 x3 3.811ghz
Motherboard
M3A79-t
Memory
1066 G-Skill 4gb
Graphics Card
Sapphire Vapor-X 4890 975/1100
Hard Drive
2 X WD250 RE3/Raid 0
Sound Card
Razor Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
PC P&C 750
Case
Rocketfish
CPU cooling
D-Tek V2/PA 120.3 w/3x san ace 1011
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Win7 (build 7068) x64/ XP x86
Monitor
Acer 22''

Last edited by SubstancenUnknown : 07-04-09 at 04:27 PM
SubstancenUnknown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #7 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
amd ati

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20

Rep: 1 Adamantin Unknown
Unique Rep: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default


heres wat ive got so far the thing that botheres me is that i only can add voltage to the cpu "+0.10, +0.20..." thats kind of too much difference betwen them
__________________
System: My Modest System
CPU
AMD Athlon x2 4400+ 2.3@2.8
Motherboard
Biostar TA780G M2+ HP
Memory
2 GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 @ 400MHz
Graphics Card
Sapphire HD4670 512/128 HDMI Edition
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB Sata II
Sound Card
On Board Realtek
Power Supply
LinkWorld 450W
CPU cooling
Pentagram Freezone HP-90
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows XP SP2 x86
Adamantin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #8 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
amd ati

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20

Rep: 1 Adamantin Unknown
Unique Rep: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamantin View Post

heres wat ive got so far the thing that botheres me is that i only can add voltage to the cpu "+0.10, +0.20..." thats kind of too much difference betwen them
i have lowered the ht to 800 and the cpu multi to 11 and uped that voltage
__________________
System: My Modest System
CPU
AMD Athlon x2 4400+ 2.3@2.8
Motherboard
Biostar TA780G M2+ HP
Memory
2 GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 @ 400MHz
Graphics Card
Sapphire HD4670 512/128 HDMI Edition
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB Sata II
Sound Card
On Board Realtek
Power Supply
LinkWorld 450W
CPU cooling
Pentagram Freezone HP-90
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows XP SP2 x86
Adamantin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #9 (permalink)
AMD Overclocker
 
SubstancenUnknown's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 966

Rep: 103 SubstancenUnknown is acknowledged by manySubstancenUnknown is acknowledged by many
Unique Rep: 63
Trader Rating: 14
Default

Is that stable like it is?


Edit: If so then just keep upping the clocks till its not stable then add a little more volts and keep going till you max out your temps and i would let them get any higher than 52*C thats just me they can go higher but thats my max and just keep in mind your ram divider as well...
__________________
PhII 940 @ 4ghz
3DMark 06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane1244 View Post
Maybe I can come over to your house and we can play some SuperPi? Then later on we can set up a LAN and play 3D Mark Vantage?

System: Unknown
CPU
PhenomII 720 x3 3.811ghz
Motherboard
M3A79-t
Memory
1066 G-Skill 4gb
Graphics Card
Sapphire Vapor-X 4890 975/1100
Hard Drive
2 X WD250 RE3/Raid 0
Sound Card
Razor Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
PC P&C 750
Case
Rocketfish
CPU cooling
D-Tek V2/PA 120.3 w/3x san ace 1011
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Win7 (build 7068) x64/ XP x86
Monitor
Acer 22''
SubstancenUnknown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-09   #10 (permalink)
New to Overclock.net
 
amd ati

Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 20

Rep: 1 Adamantin Unknown
Unique Rep: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SubstancenUnknown View Post
Is that stable like it is?
seems stable @10 mins in OCCT lol
here another result a bit tweaked with overdrive:
__________________
System: My Modest System
CPU
AMD Athlon x2 4400+ 2.3@2.8
Motherboard
Biostar TA780G M2+ HP
Memory
2 GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 @ 400MHz
Graphics Card
Sapphire HD4670 512/128 HDMI Edition
Hard Drive
Seagate 250GB Sata II
Sound Card
On Board Realtek
Power Supply
LinkWorld 450W
CPU cooling
Pentagram Freezone HP-90
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows XP SP2 x86
Adamantin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:28 PM.


Overclock.net is a Carbon Neutral Site Creative Commons License

Terms of Service / Forum Rules | Privacy Policy | DMCA Info | Advertising | Become an Official Vendor
Copyright © 2009 Shogun Interactive Development. Most rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.16667 seconds with 8 queries