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sLowEnd · 10-17-09

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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01

there's a few things wrong with this pic.
1. if it is indeed the new dual core then it would have more that just 1mb total cache, each core would have 1mb each L2
2. http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...omparison.aspx

3. AMD don't use the *000 model naming any more.

4. Then you look at this an actual Athlon II x2 250 box you'll see what I mean.

I am really not trying to be an a** but this is not it.

1. Deneb cores have 512KB of L2 per core
2. http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...il.aspx?id=607
3. It seems they do.
4. ?

Another note.
These are AM2+, not AM3.

HondaGuy · 10-17-09

Yes, it's definitely an AM2+ Deneb. CACVC

smash_mouth01 · 10-17-09

Whats the bloody point
The 5000+ only came in Windsor and Brisbane flavour, want to second guess me have a look in the AM2 segment.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...2695#anchor_os (also scroll down)

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Windsor 90nm F3 65W 2000 F1
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Windsor 90 nm F2 89W 2000 F1
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Brisbane 65nm G2 65W 2000 F3
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Brisbane 65nm G1 65W 2000 F1

I can't believe people are taking this for gold.

These are the only Athlon II releases yet (am3 all of them none of the Am2)

AMD Athlon II X4 605e 2300Mhz 512KBx4 N/A Propus 45nm C2 45W 4000 F7
AMD Athlon II X4 600e 2200Mhz 512KBx4 N/A Propus 45nm C2 45W 4000 F7
AMD Athlon II X3 435 2900Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45nm C2 95W 4000 -
AMD Athlon II X3 425 2700Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45nm b C2 95W 4000 -
AMD Athlon II X3 405e 2300Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45nm C2 45W 4000 F7
AMD Athlon II X3 400e 2200Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45n C2 45W 4000 F7

Also the 620 ,630 (but as you can clearly see they haven't used the 5000 eg naming for a while)

All I am saying is that the product on New Egg is wrong and looking at the CPUZ it looks like one of the above Cpu's, but the description on new egg sounded like A 720 BE.

HondaGuy · 10-17-09

Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P with F8 Bios

CACVC AC 0935FPMW Stepping

smash_mouth01 · 10-17-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaGuy

Yes, it's definitely an AM2+ Deneb. CACVC

This doesn't prove anything, yep it's an athlon but what one. Well for arguments sake if AMD did revive the naming scheme then why?
Sorry fail....in that pic of CPU z it says Phenom FX 5000, people are saying it's an Athlon how do you get PHENOM FX from ATHLON X2 5000+ please enlighten me.

Also did you not look at the pics of the boxing of the two CPU's I posted (and please keep in mind AMD changed their box design to the black and blue with the brisbane CPU's).

ghettogeddy · 10-17-09

well even like on my cpuz when you unlock the core it changes the name in cpuz

also we dont have a real pic of the box that is a pic on newegg they prolyl heard oh were selling another 5000+ am2+ and just used an old stock photo

sLowEnd · 10-17-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by smash_mouth01

Whats the bloody point
The 5000+ only came in Windsor and Brisbane flavour, want to second guess me have a look in the AM2 segment.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...2695#anchor_os (also scroll down)

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Windsor 90nm F3 65W 2000 F1
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Windsor 90 nm F2 89W 2000 F1
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Brisbane 65nm G2 65W 2000 F3
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600Mhz 512KBx2 Brisbane 65nm G1 65W 2000 F1

I can't believe people are taking this for gold.

These are the only Athlon II releases yet (am3 all of them none of the Am2)

AMD Athlon II X4 605e 2300Mhz 512KBx4 N/A Propus 45nm C2 45W 4000 F7
AMD Athlon II X4 600e 2200Mhz 512KBx4 N/A Propus 45nm C2 45W 4000 F7
AMD Athlon II X3 435 2900Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45nm C2 95W 4000 -
AMD Athlon II X3 425 2700Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45nm b C2 95W 4000 -
AMD Athlon II X3 405e 2300Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45nm C2 45W 4000 F7
AMD Athlon II X3 400e 2200Mhz 512KBx3 N/A Rena 45n C2 45W 4000 F7

Also the 620 ,630 (but as you can clearly see they haven't used the 5000 eg naming for a while)

All I am saying is that the product on New Egg is wrong and looking at the CPUZ it looks like one of the above Cpu's, but the description on new egg sounded like A 720 BE.

Again,

http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...il.aspx?id=607

The newegg product isn't a fake

(Also note the product code on the XS picture matches the product code in this link. "AD5000ODJ22GI")

smash_mouth01 · 10-17-09

Well I just don't know, I do apologize for arguing but all this just doesn't add up.
I just don't see AMD refreshing an old line of CPU's.
I just think this is all fluff, I hear what you are saying but I just don't see it happening.
I have used AMD for all my computers since 1997 and they have done nothing like it before.
Also I looked at the CPU z HondaGuy showed me and now just like magic the cpu has 4 MB L3 cache, if this chip is for real it would have a max 1mb per core L2.

smash_mouth01 · 10-17-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by sLowEnd

Again,

http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...il.aspx?id=607

The newegg product isn't a fake

(Also note the product code on the XS picture matches the product code in this link. "AD5000ODJ22GI")

I can clearly see what you are pointing out, it's the CPU z that confuses me.
it says AMD Phenom FX 5000 + then that AMD product over view says 512 kb L2 and no L3
then the CPU z says 4MB L3.

sLowEnd · 10-17-09

Quote:

Originally Posted by smash_mouth01

Well I just don't know, I do apologize for arguing but all this just doesn't add up.
I just don't see AMD refreshing an old line of CPU's.
I just think this is all fluff, I hear what you are saying but I just don't see it happening.
I have used AMD for all my computers since 1997 and they have done nothing like it before.
Also I looked at the CPU z HondaGuy showed me and now just like magic the cpu has 4 MB L3 cache, if this chip is for real it would have a max 1mb per core L2.

I can fathom a reason.
They could be getting rid of AM2+ deneb cores unfit to be PhII 920's and 940's.
Maybe they kept the old 4 digit number naming system to differentiate from the AM3 Athlons.

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