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Default AMD Athlon II X4 Club *Unofficial*

I saw one for the Tricore and Dual core but not one for the Quad Cores. So sign up here now.

This thread will be about the Athlon II X4 processors. This is to discuss the Athlon II X4 processors and any L3 Cache unlocking, overclocking, and any general questions. I'm not sure how I go about making it official but if anyone knows, let me know.

If submitting an overclock, please include the following (this order would help too for organization):
  • Athlon II X4 type (630, 620, 605e, etc)
  • CPU stepping (printed on the CPU IHS) and manufacturing date (i.e. MCBBF 0109MPM, or whatever you have)
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L3 Cache Unlocking with Proofs:

http://forums.vr-zone.com/overclocki...he-result.html
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=237861
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=10923
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/CPU/...on-II-630.html

See If Your Chip Unlocks L3

Okay we finally have confirmation on how to see if your Athlon II X4 will unlock L3 cache or not. When you look at the physical CPU, you'll see the following information on it:

Model #
Stepping/Revision #
Serial #

On the Stepping, if yours starts with XXDXX, you have a Propus core and thus no L3 cache to unlock. If yours starts with XXCXX, you have a Deneb core and thus a chance to unlock the L3 cache if you can keep it stable.

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Wait you can unlock an L3 cache on the Athlon II's?

Also, would a Athlon II X3 unlocked (if I'm lucky) count?

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* Athlon II X4 type: Athlon II x4 620
* CPU stepping and mfg date: 2 and I'm not sure on the date.
* Revision: blank in CPU-Z?
* Clock speed: 3250Mhz
* FSB x Multi: 250 x13.0
* Vcore: 1.328
* RAM speed: DDR3 1333 @ 1333Mhz
* NB speed: 2000Mhz
* HT Link: 2000Mhz
* Motherboard: ASRock M3A785GMH/128M
* Cooling method: Air
* CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=812496
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Wait you can unlock an L3 cache on the Athlon II's?

Also, would a Athlon II X3 unlocked (if I'm lucky) count?
Some of the Athlon II 630's and 620's are Deneb Cores that failed the L3 cache check. If yours is a Deneb Core,you can bump up the voltage and usually the L3 cache will work perfectly using the ACC trick. However, so far I've only seen 1 guy with the L3 enabled and that was over at Xtremesystems forums. But even without the L3, it's only a 5% difference between the Phenom II and the Athlon II.

Well let me see search the forums and see if there's a specific X3 unlocking club. If not, I'll make this into a hybrid and just make 2 spreadsheets.
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CPU: Athlon II X4 620
CPU stepping and manufacturing date: unfortunately I never took a pic so I don't have this at hand presently.
Revision: Not stated by CPU-Z. Family F, Model 5, Stepping 2, Ext Family 10, Ext Model 5
Clock speed: 3.25 GHz
FSB x Multi: 250 x 13
Vcore: 1.392 V (at idle)
RAM speed: DDR3-1333 (7-7-7-21)
NB speed: 2000 MHz
HT Link: 2000 MHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P
Cooling method: Air w/ stock AMD HSF. Will change to a Scythe Ninja Mini soon.
CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=797824
OS Used: 64-bit Vista Ultimate w/ SP2

I can't wait to squeeze out some more overclocking speed on this fella with a better HSF. Makes me hopeful for what a Phenom II will be capable of when I get one.

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checking in... i'll post info once i OC.
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Spreadsheet updated.

Seifer: Unfortunately, someone already established a Athlon II X3 Club
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Ok, so i can't go any higher than a multiplier of 240, anything higher and I won't go past POST. I see you guys are all set to 1333 for your RAM, do I need to drop mine down?

* Athlon II X4 type:
Athlon II x4 620
* CPU stepping and mfg date: 2 and I'm not sure on the date.
* Revision: blank in CPU-Z?
* Clock speed: 3120.14Mhz
* FSB x Multi: 240 x13.0
* Vcore: 1.328
* RAM speed: DDR3 1333 @ 1600Mhz
* NB speed: 2000Mhz
* HT Link: 2000Mhz (set to auto, showing 2160 in CPU-Z)
* Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
* Cooling method: Air (Zalman)
* CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=813159
* OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Hey, just a quick note - you've put me as a 630 owner, but it's not; it's a 620

Anyone been able to get an L3 unlock on these? I haven't even tried 'cause ACC is kind of weird to use.

Re: RAM

I've heard the AMD CPUs generally seem to have minor problems using RAM at speeds faster than 1333. I had to drop my RAM back to 1333 even though at 1600 the sticks all passed memtest86+ like a charm. But Prime95 blend kept barfing on me. So alas.

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so what would you go with, 140 extra MHz or 1666mhz mem vice 1333?

and no L3 luck for me, turned ACC to auto, even tried setting the EC to Hybrid... then i took a screwdriver to the CMOS reset haven't messed with it since besides still having ACC turned on. QR, do you have ACC on at all?
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Memory
G.Skill 4x2GB DDR1666 @ 1378
Graphics Card
Sapphire Radeon HD5770
Hard Drive
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