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BlackOmega: I vehemently disagree with Thlnk3r. I would NOT lap a processor that has a 3-year warranty
Blitz, don't have to be so harsh about it. Obviously it's his own choice if he wants to lap the processor and also how am I suppose to know if he has a warranty or not? I am merely suggesting on what might provide the best results. I didn't think twice when I lapped my brand new Opteron 170. It's all or nothing

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True, but I do not like to void warranties if there is an alternative to keep the warranty.

BlackOmega: I do not know what TigerDirect told you. OEM CPUs are usually 1 year, PIB CPUs are 3 years. They get RMAed to the retailer and wholesaler respectively.
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Hmmm..... perhaps it is only 1 year. I could've sworn that it said 3yr when I bought it........:
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True, but I do not like to void warranties if there is an alternative to keep the warranty.
Blitz, yeah because you haven't overclocked any of your brand new components at all huh?

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Hmmm..... perhaps it is only 1 year. I could've sworn that it said 3yr when I bought it........:
BlackOmega, did it come with a heatsink? I believe most OEM processors are bare. Those I believe are covered under a 1 year warranty.
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True, but I do not like to void warranties if there is an alternative to keep the warranty.

BlackOmega: I do not know what TigerDirect told you. OEM CPUs are usually 1 year, PIB CPUs are 3 years. They get RMAed to the retailer and wholesaler respectively.
When was the last time you used a warranty on a CPU...? Personally I never have, and I've lapped every CPU I've owned, which is around 12 lapping jobs by now, I think. Basically, if you plug it in and the computer works fine, then you can lap it. But you should be sure to test it before you do so. Chances of needing a warranty with a fully functional CPU are minuscule compared to a lemon out of the box, which receiving one as it is is already a minuscule chance...
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My second Socket A processor. As I said, my Asus with Via KT600 set the processor on fire. Other than that, I have never used the warranty.

And Thlnk3r, that is the difference between AMD and Intel. AMD: you may overclock your processor. If damage results therefrom, the warranty is dead. Intel: you may not overclock your processor. If you do so, your warranty is dead.
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And Thlnk3r, that is the difference between AMD and Intel. AMD: you may overclock your processor. If damage results therefrom, the warranty is dead. Intel: you may not overclock your processor. If you do so, your warranty is dead.
Blitz, thanks for clarifying.

So are you saying you NEVER overclocked your processor/video card that is (I'm assuming) still covered under the warranty?
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My second Socket A processor. As I said, my Asus with Via KT600 set the processor on fire. Other than that, I have never used the warranty.

And Thlnk3r, that is the difference between AMD and Intel. AMD: you may overclock your processor. If damage results therefrom, the warranty is dead. Intel: you may not overclock your processor. If you do so, your warranty is dead.
Yeah, I've never needed a warranty. Plus I go through CPUs at a faster rate than normal, I would say... but I hope to stick with my current platform for a while at least (my sig rig)...but my FX-70's might likely be replaced by Opty 2218 HE's soon, and then possibly 2x quad in the future, when prices and performance warrant it. But my Opty 170 rig, no reason to change that one.
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I have never overclocked a CPU/GPU to the point of failure thereby voiding the warranty. In the case of my graphics cards, anything other than stock is unstable, so stock they run.

My CPUs have always ran at stock until I joined OCN. Then my rule was I will overclock it, but the voltage will not exceed the upper tolerance as per AMD's warranty. (In the case of most K8s, that is 1.400 V.) With my 939s, I ran them with the voltage at "auto" at all times like my K7s, K6s, and K5s.
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Sorry Blitz but overclocking and warranty just doesn't mix well with me. You either do it or you don't. I suppose you didn't know that using Arctic Silver 5 on a AMD processor voids your warranty? Same goes if you aren't using their supplied cooler.

I don't think we should discourage BlackOmega from trying to get better cooling results just because of a warranty. Unless he's raising his Vcore to some extreme level I doubt anything is going to happen to the processor. Perhaps a failing PSU could cause some catastrophic event but that's the risk you take.
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