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blitz6804 · 12-16-08

No such clause exists in the warranty that I recall. However, using a non-AMD-issued heatsink to cool your CPU does. (Or in the case of the black-box ones that ship without a heatsink, using a non-AMD-certified heatsink.)

I am not discouraging BlackOmega from trying to get better cooling results, but merely reminding him of the risks of such a procedure. Since killing my Toledo, I have been rather gunshy. Pioneerisloud is the go-to crazy guy.

**thlnk3r** · 12-16-08

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

No such clause exists in the warranty that I recall. However, using a non-AMD-issued heatsink to cool your CPU does. (Or in the case of the black-box ones that ship without a heatsink, using a non-AMD-certified heatsink.)

Blitz, it's more of a rumor then anything but it's still a prevalent topic amongst many on the internetz. I might also point out that OEM processors are not warrantied through AMD but only through the retailer/reseller.

blitz6804 · 12-16-08

Absolutely correct, as I had said in 10552.

BlackOmega · 12-16-08

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Since killing my Toledo, I have been rather gunshy.

What exactly happend to your Toledo?

And depending on how things turn out with my Venice (test mule), I might just take the IHS off. I dont mind running it @ higher than recommended voltages as per AMD, but there is an upper limit of course. And it seems to be by popular consensus around 1.55v and 1.65v with h2o, and I bet you can get even higher with liquid nitrogen.

And I suppose thinker and oneluv's right, the CPU does work properly. Could it fail on its own accord and yet still fall under warranty? I kind of doubt it since its been OC'd pretty much from the moment I got it. I just want to get it higher

Probably more so to prove that the 939 is still a very capable chip, capable of hanging with and beating newer faster systems. Which it seems like I constantly do with suposedly inferior parts

**thlnk3r** · 12-16-08

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Absolutely correct, as I had said in 10552.

Blitz, sorry about that. I must of been reading to quick again

blitz6804 · 12-16-08

And Thlnk3r, I just did some research into the Arctic Silver 5 you mentioned. It seems that policy was implemented at a time when the die was naked and so a conductive material like Arctic Silver 5 could cause a short if improperly applied. With the IHSes of today, it would be hard to cause a short in the first place, so I find such a policy hard to enforce if it still exists.

**thlnk3r** · 12-16-08

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And Thlnk3r, I just did some research into the Arctic Silver 5 you mentioned. It seems that policy was implemented at a time when the die was naked and so a conductive material like Arctic Silver 5 could cause a short if improperly applied. With the IHSes of today, it would be hard to cause a short in the first place, so I find such a policy hard to enforce if it still exists.

Blitz, sorry perhaps I need to be a little clearer. If AS5 or any other thermal compound is noticeable on any of the pins then the warranty is void. Also you can use any TIM if used properly.

Plain and simple, if you're worried about warranties then you shouldn't be overclocking or modding

blitz6804 · 12-16-08

No, not true. According to AMD's policy (instituted some 6 years ago now), the use of any thermal compound other than a stock thermal pad voids the warranty even if used perfectly correctly. You may use one particular blend of Shin Etsu for evaluation purposes only. After that, you must install a thermal pad. (This is for retail processors only; same as the stock-heatsink only rule.) For OEM processors, you may use any flavor of TIM as far as I could tell, but the heatsink must be approved by AMD.

EDIT: I see. Apparently, the TIM policy changed from 2002 to 2005. I thought it might, the policy was a dumb one. "Unless you use the pad that came on the CPU, you may only use Shin Etsu G 749. If you use Shin Estu G 749, you may only use it for evaluation purposes, but then you must reinstall a thermal pad." The apparent stupidity must be why they got rid of it. And Thlnk3r, where did your hat go?

**thlnk3r** · 12-16-08

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No, not true. According to AMD's policy (instituted some 6 years ago now), the use of any thermal compound other than a stock thermal pad voids the warranty even if used perfectly correctly. You may use one particular blend of Shin Etsu for evaluation purposes only. After that, you must install a thermal pad. (This is for retail processors only; same as the stock-heatsink only rule.) For OEM processors, you may use any flavor of TIM as far as I could tell, but the heatsink must be approved by AMD.

Blitz, check out this link on OCN: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/40...ilver-5-a.html. This is from someone that actually called AMD. If you'd like I can also call AMD tomorrow to see what the rep says?

Btw let's stop discussing this in here since it's off topic. Please PM me

HothBase · 12-16-08

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*"S&M and rthdribl are presented "As is" with no warranty expressed or implied by txtmstrjoe, OCN, or any other party in this thread. If you run either program and it breaks a component in your computer, or makes you realize your Overclock is not stable, none of the aforementioned parties will be liable for your loss except yourself."

So, does this mean that running S&M is dangerous?

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