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Old 03-17-08   #1051 (permalink)
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I suppose I should join the 939 ranks and celebrate. Unfortunatly, the sig-rig is going bye-bye to pay for school and paintball. I'm downgrading to my old A64 3000+ Winchestor (see Fugly), its no X2 Toledo, but it will do just fine with some clocking.
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Note: Stepping recommendations are NOT a guarantee of a overclocking result. They merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor.

System: txtmstrjoe's old parts...kind of dusty too
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To keep everyone updated with nVidia, I have posted all correspondences below. Remember, newest is on top, so if you want proper chronological order, read from the bottom up.

Response (David C) 03/18/2008 05:14 PM
Hello Keith,
Thanks for the feedback. We'll punt your feedback to our engineer team for future consideration. For now, there's no plan to update any future nForce-3 driver.

Best regards,
David

Customer (Keith *******) 03/17/2008 11:15 AM
This problem CAN be resolved via a new nForce driver. The last version (5.11) was, if I recall, over two years ago. It would not be a problem to either 1) release a Vista-version of nForce drivers or 2) release the source code to permit enthusists to do the same. If I need to buy a new motherboard, I can insure you that it will not be nVidia based.

According to the Windows Experience Index:

CPU 5.3 (Core1 disabled)
RAM 5.1
Graphics 5.9
Gaming Graphics 5.9
Hard Drive 5.9

If I re-enable Core1, the CPU score goes to 5.8. I have three out of five categories with the highest score presently available with Vista, and so, a new motherboard would be a waste of my time and money. This entire situation shows itself to be a ploy by your marketing department to force people into unneeded upgrades.

Please either release a Vista driver or permit third parties to do the same.

Response (David C) 03/17/2008 10:51 AM
Hello Keith,
This issue will not be resolve via drivers and SBIOS updates. There are no solution at this time. The only workaround is to use a single CPU or upgrade your motherboard.

Best regards,
David

Response (IS) 03/16/2008 05:28 PM
Hello Keith,

Thank you for contacting NVIDIA Customer Care.

Your case is being escalated to our Level 2 Tech Support group. The Level 2 agents will have to review the case notes. As this process may take some time we ask that you be patient and a Level 2 tech will contact you as soon as they can, to help you with your issue.

Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care

Customer (Keith *******) 03/16/2008 01:54 PM
I have a Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 (Skt939, nForce3), an AMD 4400+ X2, and a Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 AGP 512 MB. The whole setup worked beautifuly in Windows Experience. I installed Windows Vista today, and cannot get my video card to work properly. I do not have a Code 43 error as in issue 2041, and yet, if I try to use both cores of my processor, the ATI driver is disabled. I need to get Vista to work to utilize the DirectX 10.1 capabilities of my video card.

Please let me know how much longer it will take for a Hotfix for this, as research has shown that it has been promised since February, 2007. I need this computer to last me until I graduate, at which point, I am intending to buy a Quad-SLI system, but if nVidia shows that they refuse to support competitors' components (since the issue I am having is absent if I were to use an nVidia graphics card) I will need to consider a Quad-Crossfire instead. Research has shown that SiS and VIA also had this problem, but both of those manufacturers have already fixed it.
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Old 03-17-08   #1053 (permalink)
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Blitz, I find this to be very interesting. I have a GA-K8NSC-939 also and it's an excellent board. I can see why you are wanting to use it so bad with your 3850. I'm assuming this card works great in Windows XP?
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Note: Stepping recommendations are NOT a guarantee of a overclocking result. They merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor.

System: txtmstrjoe's old parts...kind of dusty too
CPU
Opteron 170 @ 3Ghz 1.34V LCBQE 0722 (lapped)
Motherboard
DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-DR
Memory
G.Skill 2x1GB F1-3200PHU2 200mhz 3-3-2-5 2T
Graphics Card
Visiontek 4850 625/993
Hard Drive
WD740ADFD Raptor, Hitachi Deskstar 7K250
Sound Card
Razer Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
Corsair VX550
Case
Coolermaster CM690
CPU cooling
Thermalright XP-90C (lapped)
GPU cooling
Thermalright V2
OS
Windows XP Pro SP2
Monitor
Acer AL1916W
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That it does thlnk3r. I can run Civilization IV at full tilt and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion nearly so, both at my monitor's native 1920x1200.

With my Visiontek X1959XGE AGP, I could run Civilization IV only at 1440x900 with no anti-aliasing and Oblivion at 1280x800 with no anti-aliasing and shadows and water effects turned off. I had not had the chance to try Age of Empires III prior to reformatting.
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Antec TruePower Trio 650W* (Being replaced)
Case
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000A
CPU cooling
Lapped Thermalright SI-128 with Thermaltake A2018
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Old 03-17-08   #1055 (permalink)
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Blitz, well I guess you could always upgrade to XP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
Note: Stepping recommendations are NOT a guarantee of a overclocking result. They merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor.

System: txtmstrjoe's old parts...kind of dusty too
CPU
Opteron 170 @ 3Ghz 1.34V LCBQE 0722 (lapped)
Motherboard
DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-DR
Memory
G.Skill 2x1GB F1-3200PHU2 200mhz 3-3-2-5 2T
Graphics Card
Visiontek 4850 625/993
Hard Drive
WD740ADFD Raptor, Hitachi Deskstar 7K250
Sound Card
Razer Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
Corsair VX550
Case
Coolermaster CM690
CPU cooling
Thermalright XP-90C (lapped)
GPU cooling
Thermalright V2
OS
Windows XP Pro SP2
Monitor
Acer AL1916W
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I was considering using a dual-boot now at this point. The problem was I wanted Vista installed for 2 reasons:
1) Having two different operating systems that look similar* is driving me buggy. My laptop has Vista, my desktop had Experience.
2) The HD 3850 is DirectX 10.1. Experience tops out at DirectX 9.0c.

* Having two radically different systems is fine. I have no problem using Ubuntu Linux. I only wish Ubuntu could run all my games, in which case, I would take great pleasure in telling Mr. Gates off. I tried using (~), which was too much like Windows for me to handle. Yes, I know I am wierd.
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¤ Almost all PC parts come with manuals. Need help finding yours? Ask me! ¤
¤ Want a real socket? Get Socket 939! ¤

¤ Today, Scorpion presents the meaning of Linux's 'sudo': "Shut Up, Do Order!" ¤
¤ ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A <Start> ¤

System: Xaser TASER
CPU
Athlon X2 4400+ Toledo LCBIE 0638DPMW
Motherboard
Abit AT8-32X
Memory
4096 MB Mushkin Redline DDR 500
Graphics Card
2x Diamond Radeon HD 3850 512 MB*
Hard Drive
Hitachi 750 GB SATA, WD 80 GB SATA, WD 120 GB PATA
Sound Card
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Platinum
Power Supply
Antec TruePower Trio 650W* (Being replaced)
Case
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000A
CPU cooling
Lapped Thermalright SI-128 with Thermaltake A2018
GPU cooling
Vantec IceberQ 6
OS
Vista Ultimate Service Pack 1 64x <PENDING>
Monitor
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Does anyone know about the ABIT AV8 Socket 939 VIA K8T800Pro? I can find one new for $131 (if I can convince my parents to let me buy it) to fix my nForce 3 issue if nVidia is unwilling to do so. It supposedly overclocks, but how well? Has anyone had luck with it?
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¤ It runs Suicide stable at 3109 MHz and S&M stable at 2801 MHz ¤

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¤ Juris Doctorate expected Spring, 2010 ¤

¤ Almost all PC parts come with manuals. Need help finding yours? Ask me! ¤
¤ Want a real socket? Get Socket 939! ¤

¤ Today, Scorpion presents the meaning of Linux's 'sudo': "Shut Up, Do Order!" ¤
¤ ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A <Start> ¤

System: Xaser TASER
CPU
Athlon X2 4400+ Toledo LCBIE 0638DPMW
Motherboard
Abit AT8-32X
Memory
4096 MB Mushkin Redline DDR 500
Graphics Card
2x Diamond Radeon HD 3850 512 MB*
Hard Drive
Hitachi 750 GB SATA, WD 80 GB SATA, WD 120 GB PATA
Sound Card
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Platinum
Power Supply
Antec TruePower Trio 650W* (Being replaced)
Case
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000A
CPU cooling
Lapped Thermalright SI-128 with Thermaltake A2018
GPU cooling
Vantec IceberQ 6
OS
Vista Ultimate Service Pack 1 64x <PENDING>
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Dell Ultrasharp 2707WFP
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Does anyone know about the ABIT AV8 Socket 939 VIA K8T800Pro? I can find one new for $131 (if I can convince my parents to let me buy it) to fix my nForce 3 issue if nVidia is unwilling to do so. It supposedly overclocks, but how well? Has anyone had luck with it?
Though I did enjoy the Socket 939

............. For $131 you can order a Abit P35 ($60 after $20 MIR) and a E2160 $70 and have alot more performance. A gig or 2 of DDR2 ram is < $30-40 bucks now
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Does anyone know about the ABIT AV8 Socket 939 VIA K8T800Pro? I can find one new for $131 (if I can convince my parents to let me buy it) to fix my nForce 3 issue if nVidia is unwilling to do so. It supposedly overclocks, but how well? Has anyone had luck with it?
Blitz, sorry I haven't had experience with this board. Take a look at the For Sale section when you have a chance. Sometimes I notice 939 boards for sale. I think your best bet is to find a used 939 board for cheap. I sold my Asus A8N-SLI for $40 shipped so perhaps you'll find the same deal somewhere

Good luck buddy!
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Note: Stepping recommendations are NOT a guarantee of a overclocking result. They merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor.

System: txtmstrjoe's old parts...kind of dusty too
CPU
Opteron 170 @ 3Ghz 1.34V LCBQE 0722 (lapped)
Motherboard
DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-DR
Memory
G.Skill 2x1GB F1-3200PHU2 200mhz 3-3-2-5 2T
Graphics Card
Visiontek 4850 625/993
Hard Drive
WD740ADFD Raptor, Hitachi Deskstar 7K250
Sound Card
Razer Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
Corsair VX550
Case
Coolermaster CM690
CPU cooling
Thermalright XP-90C (lapped)
GPU cooling
Thermalright V2
OS
Windows XP Pro SP2
Monitor
Acer AL1916W
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Small problem with that CravinR1...

I have an AGP card, not a PCI-E.

Not to mention it is Intel (<_<)

I will keep my eyes open thlnk3r, but I am impatient, and am far more likely just to buy new.
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¤ ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A <Start> ¤

System: Xaser TASER
CPU
Athlon X2 4400+ Toledo LCBIE 0638DPMW
Motherboard
Abit AT8-32X
Memory
4096 MB Mushkin Redline DDR 500
Graphics Card
2x Diamond Radeon HD 3850 512 MB*
Hard Drive
Hitachi 750 GB SATA, WD 80 GB SATA, WD 120 GB PATA
Sound Card
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Platinum
Power Supply
Antec TruePower Trio 650W* (Being replaced)
Case
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000A
CPU cooling
Lapped Thermalright SI-128 with Thermaltake A2018
GPU cooling
Vantec IceberQ 6
OS
Vista Ultimate Service Pack 1 64x <PENDING>
Monitor
Dell Ultrasharp 2707WFP
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