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froggy1986 · 12-16-08

lol Yeah pio had mentioned, 90% of my current build, are parts from ppl in this club. Thanks btw for the input, glad to know I did a good job, even without pioneers help...

pez · 12-16-08

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

If you only have 2 GB of RAM, I would advise against using a 64-bit operating system personally. In my experience, all x86 programs in an x64 environment use about 150% of the RAM that they would use in an x86 environment natively. However, I have only dabbled in Vista x64 and Ubuntu x64, never XP x64. Txtmstrjoe uses XP x64 if I recall correctly.

The only time I would suggest using a 64-bit operating system with 2 GB of RAM is if you want to use a pair of 4870x2s in Crossfire, which would use 4 GB of video memory.

Evil Eddie: Older/slower graphics cards could get by being passively cooled, that is why there is no fan on the sink. If you have the card overclocked, a fan may be back in order. And as mudd has suggested, a video card should not cause P95 to fail.

I've run 64 bit Vista for a while now and I don't notice any difference really. Nothing runs slower or faster than it normally did in 32 bit. Of course I did it for future upgradeabilty, but I really can't tell a difference.

Evil Eddie · 12-17-08

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

Evil Eddie: Older/slower graphics cards could get by being passively cooled, that is why there is no fan on the sink. If you have the card overclocked, a fan may be back in order. And as mudd has suggested, a video card should not cause P95 to fail.

the card is not OCed, i dont know how to do that,

i put a fan on the cover door that blows on the cards, so that should help, at least to move air around there.

to all, couple of questions: when changing the cpu speed lets say 220 x12 making it 2640 to 330 x8 making 2640 what all does that do? i know it changes the hypertransport like right now im at 300x8 hyper at 600, cpuz reads my HT link at 901, but if i was at 200x12 my hyper transport would have to be 800 for it to read 900. am i talking in tongues here? i hope im making sense... lol

and could some one explain to me what the CL 2.5 clocks, tRCD 4 clocks, tRP 2 clocks, tRAS 8 clocks, tRC 12 clocks, CR 2T is? or point me to a site that will explain those.

BlackOmega · 12-17-08

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Originally Posted by froggy1986

Hey everyone, I know I haven't been around for quite some time, just wanted to update everyone, my rig has a few changes made to it since the last time I was in here.... First I just replaced my PSU, with a new Ultra X2 550 watt. I also got pio's old GPU now. I am still working on running the testing and working on a higher OC, but as for now my temps are looking much better since I redid pio's wiring job, but mostly because this one is modular. The new pix are below, let me know what ya think... Thanks

Man looks like you need some single slot cards. It seems as though that dual slot makes the second pciex16 slot useless.

blitz6804 · 12-17-08

220x12 is 2640 as is 330x8 as you have said. The difference here is where the RAM works out. On a 200:166 divider on the former, you would have the RAM running at DDR 352. On a 200:133 divider on the latter, you would have the RAM running at DDR 406. All other things equal, you would expect the 330x8 to be the faster system.

As to hypertransport: hypertransport at 600 means 3x. HTT = 300 with HTx = 3 yields 900 MHz on the hypertransport. If you want 900 with the 800 divider (4x mutliplier) you would need to be at an HTT of 225. (225 x 4 = 900).

As to the timings, I cannot explain them no. I have read a really good analogy of boxes in a warehouse, but for the life of me, I cannot remember it now.

Froggy: the RAM likes to be in slots 3/4 for dual-channel mode? Or is slot 2 blocked by the cooler?

BlackOmega · 12-17-08

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Originally Posted by Evil Eddie

the card is not OCed, i dont know how to do that,

i put a fan on the cover door that blows on the cards, so that should help, at least to move air around there.

to all, couple of questions: when changing the cpu speed lets say 220 x12 making it 2640 to 330 x8 making 2640 what all does that do? i know it changes the hypertransport like right now im at 300x8 hyper at 600, cpuz reads my HT link at 901, but if i was at 200x12 my hyper transport would have to be 800 for it to read 900. am i talking in tongues here? i hope im making sense... lol

and could some one explain to me what the CL 2.5 clocks, tRCD 4 clocks, tRP 2 clocks, tRAS 8 clocks, tRC 12 clocks, CR 2T is? or point me to a site that will explain those.

Honestly I dont believe there to be a difference in how you get to your desired CPU speed. Wether it be 220x12 or 330x8. But the FSB does affect some of the other settings like HT and RAM, so youll have to calculate to get them where they need to be.
From what I gather, lowering the multiplier is a way to OC when your CPU @ stock multiplier doesnt want to go any higher. Like my cpu at the factory 12x doesnt like to go above 2.8ghz. But @ 11x I have gotten it to post @ 3.1ghz.
Once I figure out my cooling issues, Ill shoot for more.

And as for memory timings, try doing a google search you'll probably come up with a lot better and more informative articles about the subject. But be prepared to do some reading

**thlnk3r** · 12-17-08

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Originally Posted by froggy1986

lol Yeah pio had mentioned, 90% of my current build, are parts from ppl in this club. Thanks btw for the input, glad to know I did a good job, even without pioneers help...

Froggy, wow that cable management is clean! I hardly see any wires. Great job

Your welcome for the MSI board

Good luck

Evil Eddie · 12-17-08

from what im gathering this quote found here RAM Timing Explained

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Command Rate This is the setting that selects the speed of the SDRAM signal controller. If set to 1T, then the memory controller is running in synchronization with your bus speed. 1T will increase your memory bandwidth but a LOT of memory brands will really have trouble running this at decent speeds. This setting will have to be played with a LOT while your increasing your FSB speed. It does in fact increase your memory bandwidth but will often lower your max bus speed so much that it just isn't worth using.

i could raise my CR higher than 2T(which is where it is stock) and maybe that is causing fails? sense my chips are dif kinds, kingsten and some other brand. or does it go higher than 2T? i dont wana mess with the ram yet, i just wana get 2.7 stable. i was hoping for 2.8 a while back, but after finally OCing it i see that i would need alot more stuff.

froggy1986 · 12-17-08

Thanks so much guys, glad to know that a girl can do good work on computers once in awhile....As for my ram, if we would have done it the way most mobos are arranged, it would have made it go single channel, but how it is now, is dual channel, no worries blitz.

As for the board Thinkerbell,(hehehe I haven't forgotten) thanks again, but that's another thing that will soon be replaced, we are getting another one of pios boards that we are trading a GPU for. I will see if I can't get a higher OC out of that board than I can with this one. My NB seems to overheat, and pio thinks there's something wrong with some of my sensors or something like that...lol but one of us will def keep you guys all updated.

TestECull · 12-17-08

Hey guys, my power supply exploded, but 90 Nanometers of Glory survived!

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