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What does it do anyway? Since I am back at my old-gray-horse settings, I put it back on.
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Yeah, I was just reading that. I do not see why it is bad for overclocks though. If it reduces EMI, is not that a good thing?

Another question: What the heck is AGP Aperture Size? What size should it be? The Motherboard defaults to 32mb. When it is as such, I show 3.5 GB of RAM. When I set it to 512mb (the size of my graphic card's memory), I show 2.5 GB of RAM.
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Yeah, I was just reading that. I do not see why it is bad for overclocks though. If it reduces EMI, is not that a good thing?

Another question: What the heck is AGP Aperture Size? What size should it be? The Motherboard defaults to 32mb. When it is as such, I show 3.5 GB of RAM. When I set it to 512mb (the size of my graphic card's memory), I show 2.5 GB of RAM.
I'm not sure about AGP,it's been years since I used that type of card.As far as SS. I had always thought and read that it hindered OC'ing. hmmm....now that I think of it,I'm going to see what happens when I turn it on.
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I think I figured it out. It is system memory that gets set aside to be used to store texture maps. There is a hypothetical happy medium for every system, for as you give the card more room to wiggle, there will be less RAM for everyone else.

Apparently, AGP Aperture Size is equal twice the setting in the BIOS. So when I set it to 512 MB, I dropped down to 2.5 GB of remaining RAM. I am going to run 3DMark06 now at 128 and see if I see any improvement.

EDIT: The result? My score went down like 50 points.
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I'm not sure about AGP,it's been years since I used that type of card.As far as SS. I had always thought and read that it hindered OC'ing. hmmm....now that I think of it,I'm going to see what happens when I turn it on.
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I would have to agree, spread spectrum is USUALLY a bad thing with overclocking. When I first enter the BIOS on a new motherboard, that's the first thing I disable...ANY spread spectrum. Its really only useful if you're moving your computer around a LOT (ex. LAN rigs). If you're rig is stationary 99% of the time, then there's no reason to leave it on.

As far as Aperture size (don't know about correct spelling), I USUALLY will match it to the memory size of the GPU. However your results may vary since you have 4GB of RAM. It would be SOO much easier for you if you had 64 bit OS .

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Socket A, Socket 939... it is AMD, so it is all good!

I never wanted to get 64-bit XP because I heard of a lot of driver compatibility issues. When I bought my Vista Ultimate, only the 32-bit version was $15. The 64-bit version was $100.

When I reinstall Ubuntu, I will likely try the 64-bit version.
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I usually edit, but I thought this deserved its own post:

If you have Microsoft Office products, and refuse to get OpenOffice Suite, you can still use documents made from the latter! (Such as txtmstrjoe's RAM spreadsheet.) All it takes is a small, unobtrusive plug-in:

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So yesterday I lapped my processor and heat sink, (*cough*)at work(*cough*). It took me one hour and forty minutes to get the nickel layer off with 220 grit. The rest of the steps went pretty good on the processor, total time two hours and forty minutes.

My heat sink was as flat as they came, and the polish was really great, but it had some micro-ridges, caused by machining the bottom, that you could feel slightly with a fingernail. So I only had about an hour and thirty minutes into that. Anyone ever try to do a Zalman 7700 before? Keeping it level and not damaging the fins was a chore, probably one pass per five seconds on the sand paper is all. What a pain in the ass, if it had an hardened metal covering it would have taken days to break through it.

Right now my temps Folding are down around 2*c. We will have to see what they are after my AS5 has a chance to break in, hopefully shaving another 2-3*c will be possible.
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