Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
     
 
Home Gallery Reviews Blogs Register Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Members List


Go Back   Overclock.net - Overclocking.net > AMD > AMD - General

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-03-09   #17641 (permalink)
AMD Overclocker
 
Kryton's Avatar
 
amd nvidia

Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 579

Rep: 51 Kryton is acknowledged by some
Unique Rep: 29
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by decimate View Post
I'll tell you what's even harder to find than TCCD, though...Winbond BH-5 . And I've got a kit of those babies.
I got lucky and purchased new a set of TCCD sticks about a year ago at the Egg. These are Corsair XMS 3200XLPro sticks with the LED's. I also managed to purchased new a set of BH-5 Corsair XMS sticks too for next to nothing awhile back.
Sometimes the Egg will have these "Pop Up" without warning and they do go Fast when they do. I got lucky enough to place my order before these were sold out and it only took three hours for it to happen when it did. You guys already know about my OCZ PC 4400 Gold EL sticks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe View Post
Good for strictly the basics.

Some of the specifics are outdated, however.

We S939 holdouts might still be viable in terms of motherboard capabilities and CPU overclocking capability, but where we're really getting shafted is in the RAM department. DDR is pretty much dead as far as the chipmakers are concerned, so whatever is available these days will not be anything close to what we used to enjoy during the halcyon days of TCCD/BH-5/6/UCCC/Micron -5B D chips. Even Infineon/Aeneon has stopped manufacturing their superb (but flawed) CE-5/CE-6 ICs.

The major upshot is that we pay through the nose for the scrapings at the bottom of the barrel, while modern tech gets their kicks for cheap.
I did spot a set of GSkill with similar if not the same UCCD chips in them at the Egg and I have two sets of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231012

Still in stock and these will give some respectable speeds, esp for the money nowadays. I'm happy with the sets I have here but still nothing like the "Good" stuff.
These are good too and still in stock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231047

These are still around too and yes, I have two sets of them also: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210

Can't leave these out either: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220040

Yeah, I saw where decimate has these listed but now finding the links is easier if you want to get a set. You'd better before they are gone if wanting to do so.
__________________
X3 720BE Heka @ 4275MHz/ 1.568v's

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=685068

939 Socket X2 4200 Toledo @ 3421MHz

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=576866

XP-M 2800 @ 2840MHz

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=797863

System: Series 462
CPU
XP-M 2800 @ 2840MHz (Verified)
Motherboard
DFI NF2 Ultra Infinity
Memory
Corsair XMS V1.1 PC3200 (BH-5) 2x256MB
Graphics Card
MX5200 128MB
Power Supply
Logisys 550W
Case
Old piece of smeg with one foot in the grave...
CPU cooling
Volcano 11

Last edited by Kryton : 08-03-09 at 11:58 PM
Kryton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17642 (permalink)
Kvetching is my Specialty
 
blitz6804's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Near Buffalo, New York
Posts: 5,329
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: 267 blitz6804 is a proven memberblitz6804 is a proven memberblitz6804 is a proven member
Unique Rep: 101
Folding Team Rank: 893
Hardware Reviews: 2
Trader Rating: 6
Default

Am I just blind and cannot find a download button?
__________________
¤ The Loricatus Draco life thread. Now rocking an HD 5970! ¤
¤ It gets P18,445 3DMarks in Vantage and 20,893 in 06 at 3645 MHz. ¤
¤ Upgrade budget: ■■■■■■■■■■ ($0 / $800) ¤

¤ B.S. in Chem., Cum Laude, Minors in Maths and Crim. Justice, J.D. {Pending} ¤
¤ Almost all PC parts come with manuals. Ask me to find yours! ¤
¤ Want a real socket? Get Socket 939! ¤
¤ Today Txtmstrjoe presents: "[Steppings] merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor." ¤
¤ Remember folks, be kind and professional in all your posts; I tend to report those who forget. ¤

System: Loricatus Draco (Armored Dragon)
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb (CACVC AC 0852APCW)
Motherboard
DFI LANParty DK 790FX-M2RS
Memory
2x2048 MB G.Skill DDR2-1066 (F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK)
Graphics Card
XFX HD-597A-NB9 (HD 5970) CCC 10.2
Hard Drive
Hitachi Deskstar 750 GB SATA-II; WD 80 GB SATA-I
Sound Card
PCIe X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion w/ D_K driver
Power Supply
Silverstone OP1000-E / UPS died on me
Case
Lightly Modded Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS
CPU cooling
Prolimatech Mega Shadow with Ultra-Kaze 3k RPM P/P
GPU cooling
Stock XFX
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Monitor
LG 47LH40 (47" 1080p 120 Hz)
blitz6804 is offline I fold for Overclock.net Overclocked Account blitz6804's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17643 (permalink)
4.0ghz
 
BlackOmega's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,242

Rep: 521 BlackOmega is becoming famousBlackOmega is becoming famousBlackOmega is becoming famousBlackOmega is becoming famousBlackOmega is becoming famousBlackOmega is becoming famous
Unique Rep: 371
Hardware Reviews: 1
Trader Rating: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
Nope don't see Vista 64 drivers on there, just 32, xp/2000 and 98/me.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUPER PISSED View Post
Yeah, well Nvidia can stick it up their butt.
ĦĦĦʍʇɟ qn1ɔ uoıʇɐıɔǝɹddɐ 939 ʇǝʞɔos ǝɥʇ

System: Black Box (It's actually orange)
CPU
[*Lapped* PhenomII x3 720BE @ 3.6]
Motherboard
[MSI 790FҲ-GD70 NB @ 2600MHz]
Memory
[2GB Patriot Viper DDR3 @ 1600 7-7-7-21-1T]
Graphics Card
[2x ҲFҲ 4870 ҲҲҲ 1gb]
Hard Drive
[2x WD RE16 250gb RAID 0]
Sound Card
[Onboard Realtek HD]
Power Supply
[Seasonic S12D 850w]
Case
[CoolerMaster Centurion 590]
CPU cooling
[*Lapped* Thermaltake Big Typhoon, Ҳiggy DK fan]
GPU cooling
[Stock]
OS
[ҲP pro SP3]
Monitor
[Asus VW222U 22" 2ms]
1 Million+ Folding at Home points
BlackOmega is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17644 (permalink)
Need a New Protocol
 
Hueristic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bottom_Of_A_Bottle
Posts: 8,045

Rep: 331 Hueristic is a proven memberHueristic is a proven memberHueristic is a proven memberHueristic is a proven member
Unique Rep: 221
Trader Rating: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackOmega View Post
I mean w/o CCC or nvidia control panel how would you enable SLI/crossfire?
EDIT: Hue have you signed up for Aug. foldathon yet?
I just right click on the desktop and choose nvidia control panel. Alternately you can go into the panel from the display properties or from the control panel or you can just type nvcpl.cpl from a command line or from the run command (PhysX.cpl for physx and nvtuicpl.cpl for Nview), or you can create a shortcut to these files. I'm not sure about ATI as I've said Since GPU2 folding I've switched to solely nvidia (Which sux as I <3 ATI). But I'm positive you can enable crossfire without CCC. More than likely just a reg dword value. Just do a search on your *.cpl files and find the ATI ones. start them one at a time. Or google, either way you don't need the exe for anything except easy control, If your willing to pay the overhead 24/7 for the times you need to change a setting then that is a personal choice.

Also and of the ATI exe's can be started at anytime. So you can disable them at boot and start them whenever you want.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jujdred View Post
...

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSandman View Post
...

Quote:
Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
...Omega[/URL] drivers a try? ..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
For my friend & I, the Omega's work well on HD4000 cards (as I noted before, previous gen is going in a slump sadly)

They are fairly nice, the Mobil's are actually better than the ATi ones. But the standard desktop drivers are more or less the same between ATi & Omega's.

It usually comes down to a margin of 2%. So IMHO, it's not worth the wait or hassle.
I used to use Omega all the time, Great polished install, alot of removed bloat and highest performing stable DLL's. All these packages are made by trial and error. Swap a dll change the driver info and run your test, rinse repeat.

that would be why they take time to get released.

That and no-one's making money off them.

Also As I've stated repeatedly I'm not up on ATI, But I do understand driver structure from the first days of drivers (VESA standards anyone?). So that being said there are very strict rules that must be followed so don't believe anything company reps tell you look at the standards yourself if you don't believe me.
__________________
I seldom argue my advice, It's free take it or leave it. READ this thread before starting your first build!!!
ALWAYS power up a Mobo Before installing it! Consider Less than helpful posts as Free Bumps.
ĦĦĦʍʇɟ qn1ɔ uoıʇɐıɔǝɹddɐ 939 ʇǝʞɔos ǝɥʇ:
Join the Overclock.net Foldathon - up to $250 in prizes! Retro Rulez
This goes without saying but
1. If you can't afford to lose it don't mod or OC it.
2. At least read the OP before commenting.

Semper Fi
Overclock.net - 2009 Chimp Challenge Champions 3 Million+ Folding at Home points
Hueristic is offline Overclocked Account Hueristic's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17645 (permalink)
Maple Syrup?
 
theCanadian's Avatar
 
amd nvidia

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,166
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: 257 theCanadian is a proven membertheCanadian is a proven membertheCanadian is a proven member
Unique Rep: 192
Folding Team Rank: 83
Trader Rating: 22
Default

OMG, you changed your avatar!
__________________


Its gonna be like perana on a rotting cow in there when it happens...I'm looking forward to it. - DIRTYDUCK


The only difference here is that this time the rod that Apple is shoving up your ass isn't silicone, its a rough wooden shaft. Instead of leaving the customer feeling violated, they are leaving behind bloody splinters. - nathris


System: Move On It v2
CPU
AMD Phenerom II X3 720 Barack Edition
Motherboard
Gigabyte MA790X-UD4P
Memory
G.Skill PI (2x2GB) DDR2 1100
Graphics Card
XFX GTS250 512MB + EVGA 9800GT 512MB
Hard Drive
SATA II 160GB + 2x 500GB Storage Drive
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D1
Power Supply
SevenTeam ST-750ZAF 750W Modular
Case
Cooler Master CM 690
CPU cooling
ThermalTake Big Typhoon (lapped)
GPU cooling
XFX Stock + ThermalTake DuOrb (lapped)
OS
Windows XP Pro Performance Edition / Windows 7
Monitor
HANNspree HF229H 22"
Overclock.net - 2009 Chimp Challenge Champions 3 Million+ Folding at Home points
theCanadian is offline I fold for Overclock.net Overclocked Account theCanadian's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17646 (permalink)
Overclocker in Training
 
jujdred's Avatar
 
amd nvidia

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: san diego
Posts: 23

Rep: 0 jujdred Unknown
Unique Rep: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Me thinks me reached the max for this little time piece. I ran prime95 all night without a glitch at 238 fsb but as soon as I turned it up to 240, my bios went to safe mode and warned me to change it. Any ideas on how or why this would happen? Any way to get more out of it without compromising my memory and HT speeds?

Skyn'n'Bonz
__________________
System: Skyn'n'Bonz
CPU
Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego @ 2.8
Motherboard
ECS KN1 Lite
Memory
2g Patriot PSD1G400 DDR PC3200
Graphics Card
BFG 9800GTX
Hard Drive
WDC WD3200JB-00KFA0 ATA
Sound Card
HT Omega Striker 7.1
Power Supply
Cooler Master 600w
Case
Gigabyte
CPU cooling
air
GPU cooling
air
OS
Vista Home Premium

Last edited by jujdred : 08-04-09 at 02:50 PM Reason: more info
jujdred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17647 (permalink)
Tech Support
 
thlnk3r's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Triangulum Galaxy M33
Posts: 12,004

Trader Rating: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jujdred View Post
Any ideas on how or why this would happen? Any way to get more out of it without compromising my memory and HT speeds?
Jujdred, this could simply just be the limit of the processor. Even at 240HTT*12x you're still below 1000Mhz HT so that shouldn't be a problem. Have you tried loosening your memory sub-timings to 3-3-3-8? Are you running a command rate of 1T or 2T?

Good luck
__________________
AM2+/AM3 Overclocking Guide
Socket AM2 Overclocking Guide
Socket 754/939 Overclocking Guide


Terms of Service

Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe:
"Steppings merely indicate possible outcomes due to the law of averages being in your favor."

System: Blackbird
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 620 @ 3.3Ghz 1.4v CACYC 0943CPEW
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
Memory
Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR3-1333 7-7-7-20
Graphics Card
Asus 5770
Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD
Sound Card
Razer Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
Corsair VX550
Case
Tagan Black Pearl
CPU cooling
Corsair H50 w\NF-S12B FLX
OS
Windows XP Professional
Monitor
Acer AL2216W
thlnk3r is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17648 (permalink)
Need a New Protocol
 
Hueristic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bottom_Of_A_Bottle
Posts: 8,045

Rep: 331 Hueristic is a proven memberHueristic is a proven memberHueristic is a proven memberHueristic is a proven member
Unique Rep: 221
Trader Rating: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theCanadian View Post
OMG, you changed your avatar!
LMBO! Seems to surprise everyone how my looks have changed in 6 (*?) years, No-one seems to recognize me!
__________________
I seldom argue my advice, It's free take it or leave it. READ this thread before starting your first build!!!
ALWAYS power up a Mobo Before installing it! Consider Less than helpful posts as Free Bumps.
ĦĦĦʍʇɟ qn1ɔ uoıʇɐıɔǝɹddɐ 939 ʇǝʞɔos ǝɥʇ:
Join the Overclock.net Foldathon - up to $250 in prizes! Retro Rulez
This goes without saying but
1. If you can't afford to lose it don't mod or OC it.
2. At least read the OP before commenting.

Semper Fi
Overclock.net - 2009 Chimp Challenge Champions 3 Million+ Folding at Home points
Hueristic is offline Overclocked Account Hueristic's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17649 (permalink)
AMD Overclocker
 
decimate's Avatar
 
amd ati

Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,511

Rep: 124 decimate is acknowledged by manydecimate is acknowledged by many
Unique Rep: 77
Trader Rating: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jujdred View Post
Me thinks me reached the max for this little time piece. I ran prime95 all night without a glitch at 238 fsb but as soon as I turned it up to 240, my bios went to safe mode and warned me to change it. Any ideas on how or why this would happen? Any way to get more out of it without compromising my memory and HT speeds?

Skyn'n'Bonz
Have you tried finding your mobo's max HTT yet? You should probably do that to make sure it's not your mobo holding you back. Lower your CPU multi to 5x or something like that and see how high you can clock your HTT. You might need to raise your NB voltage, use a higher memory divider and a lower HTT multi along the way.
__________________
AG Systems -- A friend in speed

ĦĦĦʍʇɟ qn1ɔ uoıʇɐıɔǝɹddɐ 939 ʇǝʞɔos ǝɥʇ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Youtube comment
hey yo God, I know you're creating the earth right now, and I'ma let you finish, but Sega had the best Genesis of all time...OF ALL TIME.

System: This system used to be top of the line *sob*
CPU
Opteron 185
Motherboard
Abit AT8-32X
Memory
2GB ADATA @ 260MHz 2.5-3-2-6 1T
Graphics Card
2x HIS Tech Radeon HD 2900XT in CrossfireX
Hard Drive
WD Velociraptor 150GB
Power Supply
PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad Black
Case
Silverstone TJ09
CPU cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 6+
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
Monitor
Xerox XG-91D
decimate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09   #17650 (permalink)
Overclocker in Training
 
jujdred's Avatar
 
amd nvidia

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: san diego
Posts: 23

Rep: 0 jujdred Unknown
Unique Rep: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
Jujdred, this could simply just be the limit of the processor. Even at 240HTT*12x you're still below 1000Mhz HT so that shouldn't be a problem. Have you tried loosening your memory sub-timings to 3-3-3-8? Are you running a command rate of 1T or 2T?

Good luck
I have not tried 3.3.3.8 yet. I am at 2t.
I see I am below 1000 Mhz, just not sure why from 238-240 HTT why it prompted a safe mode. I see my memory and HTT still have more headroom. I am stoked it is still staying so cool (52c max full throttle during prime95 runs) and not done yet. And I am finally starting to notice the speed differences. Everything seems so much more responsive but boot up is kinda slow.
__________________

System: Skyn'n'Bonz
CPU
Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego @ 2.8
Motherboard
ECS KN1 Lite
Memory
2g Patriot PSD1G400 DDR PC3200
Graphics Card
BFG 9800GTX
Hard Drive
WDC WD3200JB-00KFA0 ATA
Sound Card
HT Omega Striker 7.1
Power Supply
Cooler Master 600w
Case
Gigabyte
CPU cooling
air
GPU cooling
air
OS
Vista Home Premium
jujdred is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
939, a8n32-sli deluxe, a8r-mvp, amd, amd x2, athlon 64, cfx3200-dr, ddr500, denmark, dfi expert, dfi lanparty, g.skill, manchester, newcastle, nf4 expert, nf4 sli dr, nf4 ultra-d, ocz, opteron, opty, san diego, socket 939, toledo, venice, venus


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:07 AM.


Overclock.net is a Carbon Neutral Site Creative Commons License

Terms of Service / Forum Rules | Privacy Policy | DMCA Info | Advertising | Become an Official Vendor
Copyright İ 2010 Shogun Interactive Development. Most rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.26527 seconds with 9 queries