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Joe: As has been said several times: the allure of the BE chips is that in a pinch, you can get a "free" 2-400 MHz bump simply by adjusting the multiplier. In the long run however, it is better to lower the multiplier (if necessary) and crank up the HTT for greater performance with all numbers equal. Especially in K10.5s, where the chips often require less voltage for the same speed with a lower multiplier.
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #20032 (permalink)
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I've seen it. Only on 965BE's though. The new C3's can probably hit that high though. They seem much more adept as far as PhII's are concerned.

Most of the time, it takes 1.45v CPU-NB, stock CPU clock, and some really good RAM.

Chew* & Slappa have done it with LN2, Not seen a 24/7 on it though.
I'm hoping the new C3 stepping lives up to it's hype. It's what I've been waiting for. That and I figured I'd get my AM3 feet wet with a 720.

And an update, it seems as though my system is only 3:14:00 stable.

Tator what do you think is more beneficial a higher RAM frequency or higher NB frequency?/
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Tator what do you think is more beneficial a higher RAM frequency or higher NB frequency?/
It usually a combo effort for best results.

As both Frequency's correlate to RAM bandwidth. Which really only comes down to what you can run higher.

If you can run 2300mhz NB with 1600mhz RAM that's probably your best bet.

Though, my guess would be 2700mhz NB with 1333 tight timings would run faster. (IE teh Cas 6-5-5-5 you had earlier) As the frequency gain is higher.

As for sure though, I have no idea which has a larger impact. Judging by how scalable NB Frequency is...I would say that it might be the higher factor in the equation.

But I've never seen Cross Testing of it.
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im not really up to date with pc tech. however with my current rig with 2xgts250 would i bottleneck?
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im not really up to date with pc tech. however with my current rig with 2xgts250 would i bottleneck?
Not if you ran them on a DFI Lanparty... j/k

You will likely have a small loss but I would be more concerned w/your cpu being the bottleneck for those cards if you plan to use them in your system for modern up to date games w/all the eye candy cranked up and higher resolutions. Please correct me if I'm wrong or way off base.
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n2gaming u actually corrected my question. i was concerned about bottle necking my my cpu with the newer gpu. sorry mate ive tried dfi since nforce3 just no luck with them...
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im not really up to date with pc tech. however with my current rig with 2xgts250 would i bottleneck?
Most definitely. However with a dual core that could clock to 2.9/3.0 would still be very doable and it wouldn't bottleneck as bad. Even then it'll bottleneck some. But with 2 GPU's, some nice RAM that clocked well and a 3.0 dual core I bet youd score ~14k in 3dmark06.
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shortfuse: Before you go dual GTS 250 (which are actually 9800 GTX+ or 8800 GTS G92 512 MB slightly overclocked) I would suggest getting a dual-core CPU to go with it. Most games that can take advantage of that graphics hardware are also multithreaded, so why not pick up the gain if you can? If you do not have the money for both dual core and dual cards, then I would say get one GTS 250 (or even better, a GTX 260 for about $15 more) and a dual core CPU.
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shortfuse: Before you go dual GTS 250 (which are actually 9800 GTX+ or 8800 GTS G92 512 MB slightly overclocked) I would suggest getting a dual-core CPU to go with it. Most games that can take advantage of that graphics hardware are also multithreaded, so why not pick up the gain if you can? If you do not have the money for both dual core and dual cards, then I would say get one GTS 250 (or even better, a GTX 260 for about $15 more) and a dual core CPU.
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