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Old 02-17-08   #231 (permalink)
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that looks comprehensive to say the least... almost a compact sandra.

thank you sir

edit: v 1.91 is now available
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crash, have you tried other stress testing applications like Orthos or OCCT? I hesitate to offer you the nastiest, most severe stress test that I know about, S&M v.1.90 (scroll down the page until you see it), which is known to BREAK weak parts.

I would try Orthos as a substitute to Prime95. However, if your rig still fails the stress test that quickly, then something is clearly amiss.

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Orthos failed in about 25sec. Mem test runs fine. What gives. Again, I have no other probelms with anything else. That is why have left it this way for a year now.
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Orthos failed in about 25sec. Mem test runs fine. What gives. Again, I have no other probelms with anything else. That is why have left it this way for a year now.
How much VCore are you running?

Have you run Small FFTs test? This will test just the CPU side of the OC. Blend tests CPU+RAM together.
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How much VCore are you running?

Have you run Small FFTs test? This will test just the CPU side of the OC. Blend tests CPU+RAM together.
v-core is 1.4. I will try that now. Nope, still the same.
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v-core is 1.4. I will try that now. Nope, still the same.
Two options.
  • First thing I would try is to increase your VCore, one step at a time, until you can run Small FFTs for a minimum of eight hours (given that you're running your Orthos at Priority 1). Personally, I would keep on going for as long as possible just to see how relatively stable the CPU settings are. Obviously, the longer it keeps going, the closer to stability you are.
  • Your other option would be to slow the CPU down and maintain your VCore where it is. I suspect, though, given the relative quickness of the Orthos failure, that you'll have to reduce CPU speed by maybe 50-100MHz just to get stable (a minimum estimate, in my opinion), so this might not be too attractive to you.

A stable OC takes a ton of testing and patience. It's worth it, though, in my opinion. I'd rather have a fast rig that can run all day than a faster rig that'll crash at the worst possible time.

Hope this helps, and please update us.
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To answer your question:
CPU speed is king most of the time. I think the ONLY time it doesn't matter so much is SuperPi because you also have to have your RAM running nice and fast as well. My Opty rig used to run 3.0Ghz (333FSB) all day long with my Corsair Value RAM. However my RAM had to be ran at 166MHz (DDR333) because the next divider up made it unstable. That wasn't necessarily a bad thing though because I could run super tight timings. With 939's its USUALLY better to worry more about CPU speed than RAM speed. Then once you get that worked out....find the highest your RAM hits with your CPU at that speed....then tighten the timings as much as you can. A slightly lower clock on the RAM with tighter timings usually performs better than a higher clock with looser timings.
I tightened my timings a little, will try a little more everyday. Any guides?
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Two options.
  • First thing I would try is to increase your VCore, one step at a time, until you can run Small FFTs for a minimum of eight hours (given that you're running your Orthos at Priority 1). Personally, I would keep on going for as long as possible just to see how relatively stable the CPU settings are. Obviously, the longer it keeps going, the closer to stability you are.
  • Your other option would be to slow the CPU down and maintain your VCore where it is. I suspect, though, given the relative quickness of the Orthos failure, that you'll have to reduce CPU speed by maybe 50-100MHz just to get stable (a minimum estimate, in my opinion), so this might not be too attractive to you.
A stable OC takes a ton of testing and patience. It's worth it, though, in my opinion. I'd rather have a fast rig that can run all day than a faster rig that'll crash at the worst possible time.

Hope this helps, and please update us.
What's more, is that even the slightest instability, given time has an exponential effect. Though you have been operating for a year under these conditions, if you were to begin using applications that began to stress components under your current configuration in normal operating conditions...you may begin to experience file system corruptions, disk errors, BSODs and intermittent system failure.
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