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pioneerisloud · 02-18-08

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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe

Done (in 9:39, no less)!

Given what you've told us, it does appear that the thermal sensors are wacky on that Manchester. To be honest, I'm not familiar with Manchester having goofy temp sensors, as the case seemed to be with certain Denmark/Toledos and many of the Brisbanes. It doesn't mean that it's not possible, though.

Question: You couldn't get that Manchester to run stably with less VCore?

Oh no....in my board to hit 2.55 I had to push 1.60v through it. At 2.50Ghz I had to run 1.475v through it, etc, etc.... It takes massive volts to get it up that high unfortunately. I've got quite a bad stepping on that Manny. I have no clue what it is though since I lapped it before I knew what steppings were, lol. But yeah I've got the voltage maxed out that the MSI board can give it. If I go to 2.61Ghz (261FSB)...it fails Orthos within 5 minutes. I am at this processor's maximum possible speed to be stable I'm sure. And unfortuantely to get it there...it needs massive volts.

**thlnk3r** · 02-18-08

Well this definitely sounds normal voltage wise for a Manny but those temps are insane.

txtmstrjoe · 02-18-08

I often forget how hungry for voltage Manchesters are. I only have two in my collection.

Come to think of it, that's about par for the course. My office machine has a Manchester (X2 3800+), and it's at 2.5GHz. It needs about 1.45V VCore, but it's stable like a mountain. Runs hotter than most any Denmark chip I've ever had, too.

pioneerisloud · 02-18-08

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Originally Posted by thlnk3r

Well this definitely sounds normal voltage wise for a Manny but those temps are insane.

Like I said, its lapped mirror smooth (both CPU and the Big Tyhoon). Its using Shin Etsu TIM. And what did the CPU temp say, 52*C? I very highly doubt that one core is 30*C hotter than what the CPU temp is (not core, CPU).

Yes, it may be crazy hot...but I like to live dangerously

. Heck, my Opty loads at 67*C...just over thermal spec. Do I care? No. If it knocks 1 year off the processor's life.....am I really going to have this processor THAT long? Probably not. So why worry about it?

And I'm quite convinced that the Manny just has a screwy sensor. Like I said, it's had super high delta's since I got it. I always thought that the higher temp was something completely different till I started using Everest and CoreTemp. Like I said, 95*C under load in my sig rig...running 100% stock speeds and volts with my Zalman. There's no possible way...not even with a bad mounting job could it possibly be that high. And with that Big Typhoon...man I've got that thing bolted down as tightly as I possibly could....and evenly. Again...I like to live dangerously

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txtmstrjoe · 02-18-08

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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud

Like I said, its lapped mirror smooth (both CPU and the Big Tyhoon). Its using Shin Etsu TIM. And what did the CPU temp say, 52*C? I very highly doubt that one core is 30*C hotter than what the CPU temp is (not core, CPU).

Yes, it may be crazy hot...but I like to live dangerously

. Heck, my Opty loads at 67*C...just over thermal spec. Do I care? No. If it knocks 1 year off the processor's life.....am I really going to have this processor THAT long? Probably not. So why worry about it?

And I'm quite convinced that the Manny just has a screwy sensor. Like I said, it's had super high delta's since I got it. I always thought that the higher temp was something completely different till I started using Everest and CoreTemp. Like I said, 95*C under load in my sig rig...running 100% stock speeds and volts with my Zalman. There's no possible way...not even with a bad mounting job could it possibly be that high. And with that Big Typhoon...man I've got that thing bolted down as tightly as I possibly could....and evenly. Again...I like to live dangerously

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pioneerisloud = Daredevil!

Either that, or a (uh-oh) flamer...

Just kidding! I swear!

Seriously, though, I'm inclined to agree with you, pioneer. It must be a screwy sensor. It's not monitoring software (two different systems with two different motherboards), it's likely not a bad HSF mount, the surfaces are lapped...

pioneerisloud · 02-18-08

I'm not all that worried about the Manny. I've taken GREAT care of it for its entire lifetime. That sensor's kinda iffy...but I wouldn't think it'd hurt anything. Oh...and I PM'd you 939 king!

**thlnk3r** · 02-18-08

I just went for 3300mhz at 1.55volts and no luck. Even relaxed my timings

. I got a nasty pci.sys error though hahaha

txtmstrjoe · 02-18-08

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Originally Posted by thlnk3r

I just went for 3300mhz at 1.55volts and no luck. Even relaxed my timings

. I got a nasty pci.sys error though hahaha

Holy boot failure, Batman!

Good thing for you that I know you clone your system regularly!

**thlnk3r** · 02-18-08

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Originally Posted by txtmstrjoe

Good thing for you that I know you clone your system regularly!

LOL actually I was desperate and went straight for the gold. I guess I should clone my drive before I mess something up

txtmstrjoe · 02-18-08

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Originally Posted by thlnk3r

LOL actually I was desperate and went straight for the gold. I guess I should clone my drive before I mess something up

YIKES!

And I thought pioneer liked to live dangerously...

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