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Old 07-12-08   #5491 (permalink)
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nope joe, I had tested that about 10 times each with a g.skill pc4000 stick and a corsair pc3200 stick
I did do a CMOS reset, but I have heard some crazy things you have to do to actually clear it.
googling it now...
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Remove power from the rig by pulling the plug or switching the PSU off.

Move the PC Speaker jumper to the ON position.

Remove the Battery.

Move the CMOS jumper to CLEAR.

Press the Start Button on the case or motherboard to drain the capacitors.

You may leave the board in this condition for as long as it takes to clear the CMOS. If a short 30 second clear or a 15 minute clear doesn't work, try an 8 hour clear then a 24 hour clear.

Plug in a PS2 Keyboard.

Put one stick of RAM in the top orange slot marked DIMM2.(may vary on Infinity boards)

Replace the Battery.

Move the CMOS jumper to Normal.

Press and hold the Insert Key on the Keyboard.

Apply power to the rig by plugging the power in or using the switch on the PSU.

Press the Start Button to power the rig up.

When you hear the BEEP, release the Insert Key and press the Delete Key on the Keyboard.

Once you enter the BIOS set the DATE and TIME then Load Optimized Defaults.

Save and Exit.

Enter the BIOS again and set it up the way you want for your particular rig.

NEVER load any saved CMOS settings from CMOS Reloaded once you have a new BIOS installed.
should I have a processor or memory in the DFI board when I do this? Because I already have my components in my MSI board

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Ah, there is your problem. That procedure forgot to mention the slaughtering of the fattened calf...

All I should think you need is a proc, the RAM as required, and a video card. Everything else is superfluous to access the BIOS.
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nope joe, I had tested that about 10 times each with a g.skill pc4000 stick and a corsair pc3200 stick
I did do a CMOS reset, but I have heard some crazy things you have to do to actually clear it.
googling it now...
Uh oh.

For a deeper CMOS clear, put the CMOS clear jumper to positions 2 - 3, then pull the battery out. Keep it out for maybe ten minutes, then reinstall it. Put your CMOS jumper back to positions 1 - 2.

For sure, though, on first power-ups, the RAM installation procedure (one DIMM in the orange slot furthest away from the CPU socket) is straight from the instruction manual. The board will NOT fire up if this is not done first.

If this fails, you might be looking at a dead/unhealthy motherboard or maybe dead RAM, though this is very very unlikely in this case, because the board will still POST with unhealthy RAM.

I forget, nate, what PSU are you running with the DFI? I know from thlnk3r's experience with his that some older PSUs, or those with inadequate output, will prevent a POST.

Good luck, buddy!
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blitz maybe you misunderstood me, I just want to know if a bare motherboard will be able to clear CMOS, or if maybe it needed components in it to clear it, which I doubted.
If I do need components, I'll power down and shlep my processor, ram, and video card back over to the DFI board (AGAIN!) and wait 24 hours to clear it (or should I wait 15 minutes first, and then go for the 24 hours?)

joe, the ram is definitely not dead, im running this computer (the one I'm posting from) off of it right now

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No, to clear a BIOS you just need the motherboard. Nothing else.
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No real need to wait an insanely long time, in my opinion. Once that battery's out, there's no power on the board; it's not like it's got a clock counting down to a whole twenty-four hour period.

Try for a shorter interval, then follow the procedure as stated.

For POST, you only need a CPU, RAM, and video. For CMOS clear, just the motherboard. Blitz Esq. was correct.
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ok, I have to shut down anyway because the DFI is still in my case, and the power supply cables and IDE cables are in the way of it
I'll be back in about 10-20 minutes.

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Mine is so sensitive I do not even need to unplug the sucker: just touch a screwdriver between the clean pins and the CMOS is dumped. The 24-hour rule usually comes to play on boards that do not have a dump pin.

I do agree with the idea of pushing the power button a few times to be sure the capacitor is drained. You should be able to just short the power pins with a screwdriver.
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Good luck Nate , hope you didnt get a bad board
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Good luck Nate , hope you didnt get a bad board
boonster, just told Sub-Zero that myself a few minutes ago.

Just the same, nate, good luck! And keep us updated, please.
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