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**txtmstrjoe** · 08-24-08

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

I know Joe's opinion is stilted, but what does everyone else think of delidding? Is it better to delid than to lap?

"The Big Nasty" says it's always better to run naked and free. Easier than lapping, to be perfectly honest with you.

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

I just need a box cutter and nerves of steel right?

Steady hands and some knowledge of how deeply you ought to cut will help as well.

To ascertain optimum depth, just look at any picture of a naked chip.

Therefore, a veritable CPU pr0n parade:

Hopefully these pictures will give you an idea of how deep to cut.

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

I have very trembly hands; will that be a problem?

Quite possibly.

blitz6804 · 08-24-08

Did you put your CPU in the freezer at all like I've seen some guides say? Can you give me in mm how deep I should cut?

GuardianOdin · 08-24-08

I do not regret going naked. I will however suggest you start at the corners with the razor first and slowly rock the razor back and forth. I didn't use the freezer method, but I have read of it.

Oscuro · 08-24-08

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Originally Posted by blitz6804

Considering that this is not a thread about cars Iandroo...

...This thread has bounced from topic to topic faster than Tigger on crack!

1: Odin....ouch. I just have a hole in the floor board on the driver's side, some rust on the rear quarter passenger side, on the trunk lid and some on the hood. Oh, and some in the trunk well where the spare tire used to go...but I'm thinking about just turning it into a spot for the fuel pump.

2: Iandroo, on V6/V8 engines, the plugs are often on the exhaust side of the head. As well as with SOHC 4 cyl engines. Also, on some cars, the engine bay is so tight, or the engine is mounted so far under the cowl...or, on quite a few mid-engine cars, the plugs can be almost entirely impossible to remove without removing the engine.
Eww...new bland cars with warranties :P

'72 Celica ftw!

iandroo888 · 08-24-08

for good measure for me when i de-lid processors, i mark on the blade with a permanent marker about 2-3mm. so i have an idea and a guide to how much as gone in.. 2-3mm is safe in regards to whats under the lid. should be enough to only cut the adhesive.

also! heres a tip to where to start. on one side, theres a slit thats already open.. not really open but does not have adhesive. taht should be a good place to start.

oscuro. lol. nice. i got an 07 honda accord v6 now. i had a 92 honda accord and a 98 integra with a k-22 swap and right side conversion. sure i dont know much but i just do what ppl taht do know tell me to do. haha.

blitz6804 · 08-24-08

Okay... next question:

What are my chances of having a soldered IHS? The CPU is an AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ LCBIE 0638DPMW. It was an OEM; not a PIB.

Futuredrifter · 08-24-08

I've never really heard of a 939 having a soldered ihs. I think it's Intel and some am2 cpus that have soldered ihses.

OT: about car spark plugs, some boxer motor cars plugs are hard to change

**txtmstrjoe** · 08-24-08

@ Sub-Zero:

I did not use the "freezer trick" at all. I just took a box cutter, ran it through the perimeter of the IHS probing for a soft spot in the adhesive, and firmly pushed through the softest spot. I then just ran the box cutter blade under through the rest of the IHS's junction point with the PCB until the IHS popped off.

The last time I did this it took no more than maybe six or seven minutes tops.

Also, none of the S939 CPUs had their IHSs soldered on as far as I know. I've stripped four, and none have had their tops soldered on.

(Futuredrifter is absolutely correct, though, about Intels and some AM2s having theirs soldered on.)

One of these days I'll strip another chip in my collection and do a bit of a pictorial.

pioneerisloud · 08-25-08

I've got a question about delidding:
If I were to delid my Opty persay....how would I mount my Zalman cooler to it? It's just a clip-on (save your corny "tie" jokes for later

).

Iandroo:
Figured you have a honda

. You know Honda's are like tampons right? Seriously, Toyota is where its at. Celica's are great, as are Supra's. If you want something good on gas, the Corolla line is great for that. Here's the way I look at it:

Everyday driving:
AE86 Corolla
90-93 Celica (personal choice)

Drifting:
AE86 Corolla
Supra (pretty much any, but I prefer 94-98).

Drag:
Supra (94-98 for me please)
Celica with Supra motor (WOW THAT'S FAST)

Track racing:
90-93 Celica All Trac (person choice...but any fast AWD car would do)

Those are my PERSONAL choices in cars, and next year around tax returns time....screw a new computer, I'm buying a Celica (hopefully) (again).

Oscuro:
I've never personally seen a 72 Celica. That sounds about the time they were released. Chances are, the body style just wouldn't be my type, but I LOVE me a good Toyota. If you happen to be working on one....you should PM me with some pics

. I'd love to see what you're doing with it. If you're actually building one (I THINK I remember you saying something about that), then I might be able to use some pointers from ya. I'm also available on any IM client...I'm sure you can find me

.

blitz6804 · 08-25-08

Guys; seriously. Lets keep car talk in a car-thread and/or chat programs.

I would guess you will need some sort of shimming apparatus with that Zalman pioneer. Joe suggested in my case, I can put pennies between the mounting bracket and the heat sink. You do not have that option. You could however shim between the back of the motherboard and the backplate. Perhaps electrician's-tape-wrapped washers?

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