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The OCZ 1GB module is supported. I'm fairly sure they just didn't test every single memory stick on the market. If the 1GB is supported, no reason why the 2GB wouldn't be supported.

The MB can support a max of 16GB ram. Thanks, but I don't believe supported memory is the issue here.

Edit: on the other hand, if that is the issue I'm going to be more then slightly pissed. Mostly at myself though. Sadly, the only other memory I have is in another PC.. and frankly, im not even sure if its DDR2. Will DDR work OK on DDR2 slots?.

Edit2: Voltage is 1.8V, since I Reset to defaults. I usually set it to 2.1V, which is the recommended voltage... regardless, data corruption happened at both voltages. AND memtest showed no errors at 1.8V as did othros.
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The OCZ 1GB module is supported. I'm fairly sure they just didn't test every single memory stick on the market. If the 1GB is supported, no reason why the 2GB wouldn't be supported.

The MB can support a max of 16GB ram. Thanks, but I don't believe supported memory is the issue here.

Edit: on the other hand, if that is the issue I'm going to be more then slightly pissed. Mostly at myself though. Sadly, the only other memory I have is in another PC.. and frankly, im not even sure if its DDR2. Will DDR work OK on DDR2 slots?.
Sunrex, all though your memory is not listed in the support page that just means Gigabyte hasn't "officially" supported the memory.

DDR1 is not compatible on a motherboard that supports DDR2. DDR1 is 184 pins and DDR2 is 240 pins, so physically it won't fit. The memory controller in your AM2 processor is also DDR2.

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The HDD started having a weird buzzing sound and sometimes it sounded like grinding, fear not though. I have heard this for a while when windows was working, its not loud. Pretty quiet. No performance issues when this happened playing games, etc.
Sunrex, is this the Seagate drive that is making the "buzzing sound"? Have you tried installing the OS on another drive? Please keep the Seagate drive disconnected while testing this.

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The data corruption happened on the WD as well, which is the reason I ordered the seagate in the first place .

So nobody has any ideas?. I've removed pretty much everything from the list accept the actual MB... at this point, I'm just going to have to say its the MB. Can you recommened any good MicroATX motherboards that can support my system specs (Listed.. somewhere.. above)

Edit: Links appear to be dead, let me give you the actual details. Give me a bit.
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The data corruption happened on the WD as well, which is the reason I ordered the seagate in the first place .

So nobody has any ideas?. I've removed pretty much everything from the list accept the actual MB... at this point, I'm just going to have to say its the MB. Can you recommened any good MicroATX motherboards that can support my system specs (Listed.. somewhere.. above)
Sunrex, there are several users on this board that use this motherboard and I myself have also used this on a few builds. I can't imagine the motherboard causing this type of problem but then again anything is possible.

Have you given Windows XP a try to see if the issues reoccur?

Have a look at the DFI LP JR 790GX-MSRS. I believe this motherboard is mATX and is also running off the SB750 chipset. The price difference is higher then your GA board. If in fact it is your GA board that is at fault have you thought about RMA'ing the motherboard? Here is the Gigabyte RMA page if you're interested: http://rma.gigabyte-usa.com/DirectRMA/EndUser_Main.asp.

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Sunrex, there are several users on this board that use this motherboard and I myself have also used this on a few builds. I can't imagine the motherboard causing this type of problem but then again anything is possible.

Have you given Windows XP a try to see if the issues reoccur?

Have a look at the DFI LP JR 790GX-MSRS. I believe this motherboard is mATX and is also running off the SB750 chipset. The price difference is higher then your GA board. If in fact it is your GA board that is at fault have you thought about RMA'ing the motherboard? Here is the Gigabyte RMA page if you're interested: http://rma.gigabyte-usa.com/DirectRMA/EndUser_Main.asp.

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Like I just told Rita on Newegg (RMA services, worth a shot lol. A few months out of warranty) gigabyte will likely lead me around a bush for a few months before finally RMAing it.

When I try XP, usually it actually gives me a NTRLD boot error. Then I fix it with recovery. After 3-4 times of doing this, it will no longer recover.

So, any wild insane no-way-its-possible ideas on why this is happening to me?. And.. it seems only me?.
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Edit: he has the same issue as me!. Going to read now: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=456645

Edit2: NO SOLUTION!! AND THERE WAS MORE THEN ONE PERSON THAT DID EXTENSIVE TESTING!!!!!! *Bangs head on counter* I'm gonna try replacing the CMOS battery, though I dont think it will do much good. I'll check on the forum again in a few hours.

Edit3: Upon reading this thread as well http://forums.hexus.net/help-technic...-problems.html it has convinced me without a shred of a doubt that its Gigabytes motherboard. I likely got a faulty batch. I'm going to call them up for RMA and if they say "no" to me im going to tell them to... hm.. actually, best not say it on this forum. I'll likely get banned.. heh?.
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He is also using 2x2gb memory lol.....
Have you tried putting your other memory in there just to see if the problem occurs on that memory also ?
Think about it.
Cpu is good, temps are good.
You have done extensive testing on your drives, they are all good.
Your psu is new, so you say its okay.
I 100% highly doubt its the board.
Try some different ram...
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When I try XP, usually it actually gives me a NTRLD boot error. Then I fix it with recovery. After 3-4 times of doing this, it will no longer recover.

So, any wild insane no-way-its-possible ideas on why this is happening to me?. And.. it seems only me?.
Sunrex, I understand your memory did pass memtest but I would also strongly recommend try another set or even just a single stick. Is there any way you can get your hands on another stick of DDR2 memory? Rare but possible, I have had memory pass within memtest but still cause issues on my board. It could be bad or there might be some compatibility issues. It would definitely be cheaper then buying a new board.

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He is also using 2x2gb memory lol.....
Have you tried putting your other memory in there just to see if the problem occurs on that memory also ?
Think about it.
Cpu is good, temps are good.
You have done extensive testing on your drives, they are all good.
Your psu is new, so you say its okay.
I 100% highly doubt its the board.
Try some different ram...
Yes, but according to him the second board worked.

Also, the other guy tested extensive memory, lots and lots. And it did the same thing.

Unless NB is causing high temps, I know im just jumping around but I don't have extra memory here. I don't want to buy another brand because if it doesnt work im stuck with another 4GB of RAM that I wont use (Wont be compatiable.. or would it?. Can I put two different brands of ram in the other 2 DDR2 slots?. Since it would be on another channel?. I want 8GB ram .)

What about FSB?. Could this be causing the issue if its to far off?.

Gigabyte support had no idea what this was, and the person I talked to hadn't had anyone call him with the same issue. So I'm going to have to say I doubt its the RAM...

"Cpu is good, temps are good."... not trying to be rude here, but 112C NB under load.. well, I wouldn't call that "good" lol.

Why can't it be the board?. The data corruption MOSTLY (As in I havent actually noticed it happen otherwise) only happens on a cold boot... actually, strange as this is I left the screen on the loading error and after a few seconds it booted up into windows without me doing a thing, weird...

I would try different ram if I had another brand of ram... well.... I think I might have some DDR2 *Shrug* I can try. But its 512x2. (2 sticks, each 512).

Single stick does the same thing, I even tried putting one of the sticks in the other channel so I had 64-bit ram. Same issue. Always happens on cold boot... if its warm boot, the corruption doesnt happen nearly as much.

Not really.. it might be 20 or so bucks cheaper then buying a new board if I bought 2x2GB again (I WANT 8GB! I DONT WANT 1GB OF RAM I WILL NEVER USE! WAHAHAHHAA... 1GB would be good for testing, but otherwise really a waste of money.) And, Gigabyte said I could try RMAing online *Shrug*.

Yay for wasting time!. It's pretty obvious to me nobody here knows what the actual issue is . Thats not me saying you dont know what your doing, just that you never had this problem before... I'll try the 512 sticks though, just to make sure. Still gonna apply for the RMA since I really doubt it is.
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Can I put two different brands of ram in the other 2 DDR2 slots?. Since it would be on another channel?. I want 8GB ram .)

What about FSB?. Could this be causing the issue if its to far off?.
Sunrex, two different brands of memory is fine. It's just best advised when overclocking that you use the same set (brand, speed ect).

If you're overclocked then yes you can run into this issue. That is why we asked you in previous posts if you were running everything at stock settings. Make sure your reference clock (ie. FSB) is at it's stock value of 200Mhz. Most data corruptions issues that occur here are due to unstable overclocks.

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