sgdude

not really. the 920 is in the q6600 price range
and the 7750 x2 costs more than the e5200

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mrkryz

So from what I hear right now its about supporting the underdog to prevent Intel from going a$$ wild with no other real competitor in the space?

I too loved my K7's , Duron and Athlons but once the heat turned on and it went south I jumped over to the other camp and have been there since.

Granted the price is most def. in AMD's favor; the point of the question is really that at OCN which is really performance driven... I see a LOT of people investing a comparable amount of money into new builds based on AMD platforms when for the same dollars an intel build would yield better all around performance. That, is the question I am curious about....... Not to poke fun at AMD as I bought quite a few of their products and most of my laptops in the past; But I liken it to betting on the horse I feel sorry for rather then the proven winner for the sake of sympathy and loyality when a q6600 + p45 mobo will still edge out any and all of AMD's offerings for basically the same price point .

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crashovride02

I have always been an AMD fan myself! I think the price does it for me and also they are the underdog so that pulls me in. I have never owned an Intel and probably won't. They are better in the high end right now but even the low end will still get the job done. My Opty 165 is still going strong and does everything I want it too. I think that's the most important thing for most is that it just works for them and why change.

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pioneerisloud

QFT Right here.

The HTPC Platform is a REALLY BIG THING that AMD has right now. You cannot beat an AMD / 780G chipset for HPTC or even general computer right now. PERIOD. The Phenom's and Phenom II's are also in a GREAT price spot right now as well.

As to why I personally still am on AMD:
Uhh, look at my rig. I've had this rig for 5 years. And it still plays any game I want (except GTA IV). Why jump from it now, when its still working fine?

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TEntel

I really like AMD motheerboards.

They have a great chipset that is very stable and reliable.

I also like the fact that buying their socket means a ton of support in the future.


That was a very important factor for me.


Sure I know a lot more now, and if I had the cash, I would go i7 without hesitating,
but I like the fact that my mobo supports AM3 CPUs that aren't even out yet.

Who knows what AMD will come up with in the future, but there is a good chance I'll be able to use it without any additional upgrades.

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BobbyChicken

Because an amd phenom ii 940 overclocks extremely well. Plus, you don't have to pay 500 bucks for your mobo and ram with amd like you do with i7. And on water, it will destroy intel's socket 775 chips. If I was buying an 700-1500 dollar system right now, you can be sure the phenom ii 940 would be the cpu. If your going for budget, the e5200 beats out any amd options. The i7 920 beats it out on the higher end. But for a cheap gaming quad, amd can't be beat. The difference between native and non-native is considerable and does not show up in most benchmarks. It does show up in most multitasking though, and, to a lesser extent in games. Honestly, I think amd has the lead at the momment.

smoke12291

I agree with many posts in this thread.

AMD wins outright in the medium to low-end market, and especially in the HTPC market.

but for just raw performance, and having the fastest processor out there, intel wins.

AMD also wins in the multi-gpu folding farm set-up!

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Blameless

I ripped the intel fanboys apart when they stuck with NetBurst after the A64s showed up (I spent 400 dollars on a S754 3400+ the week it came out, no regrets, it burried any POS P4C), and I was equally harsh to those who chose X2s or early Phenoms over C2Ds and C2Qs.

For upper midrange, or anything high end, there is no reaon to go AMD at this point, at least from a price/performance perspective.

However, it seems pretty apparent that some people think the 20 dollars of profit AMD makes off of them is somehow going to save the company, that AMD gives a damn about them, or that they only have had experience with AMD and are afraid of the unfamilar.

AMD stil has a few competitive products, but in the here and now, they are mostly niche ones.

But not better than the Pentium Es.

In early 2007 I bought my first Intel CPU since the original Pentium MMX. It was a 65 dollar E2140 (that I OCed to a stable 3.2GHz), and it beat the crap out of my OCed Opteron 165.

This is a good point.

AMD triple cores do present an interesting option, I agree.

nist7

I had a socket 939 system and just finished upgrading her to the 7750 BE, and a new video card. At that time (around Dec 2008) I was deciding whether to go with an E8400/P45 setup or the new 7750/AM2+ setup. The i7 was definitely out of the option due to the high cost and virtually zero improvement in terms of noticeable gaming performance over the E8400/P45 option (http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...core_i7/14.htm)

My CPU and mobo upgrade cost me a total of $160. Whereas a single E8400 would've already cost me $165. And I do not believe there would've been a noticeable difference during gaming:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...lon7750/12.htm

vs

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...l_e8400/12.htm

And the Phenom II 940 matches the i7 965 almost FPS for FPS in gaming tests. Obviously this does not mean that the raw power of the AMD is anywhere near that of the i7 (synthetic benchmarks have proven that the i7 is superior) HOWEVER if you want to spend $800 more to play CoD5 at 57FPS instead of 46FPS...then all the power to you: http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...omii940/12.htm --> see chart of 1680x1050

AMD is still the king of cost/performance ratio. Unless you are saying that comparable AMD chips to the Intel are significantly and noticeably slower even in moderately high gaming. Of course, unless you have a 120Hz monitor, all those parts enabling you to go 60+FPS are going to waste anyways.

Blameless

My mobo + ram cost $300.

In what respect?

My i7 setup is well with in that price range.

In fact, I could have gotten a 4870X2, or GTX285 without going past the 1500 dollar mark.