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Old 06-22-09   #31 (permalink)
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hi guys. here's an ultimate clock for clock comparison, deneb vs agena including kentsfield, yorkfield and bloomfield, all at 3ghz.
http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

i'm thinking 10%.

hey logan, you might want to check this out.
http://techreaction.net/forums/showthread.php?t=367

hope this helps with your guide
Thanks for the links. I thought about inserting things like how ram speed is calculated into this guide (got so far as to write another mini-guide for it like my PSU one) but decided that durches guide covered it well, and thought that since the main point of this guide is not to be an end all "read this and all of your overclocking problems will be solved" type of guide. But rather A simple guide that could walk new members through the basics of overclocking. I mean... if we answered all of the questions in the guide.. .we wouldn't have anything to do in the forums .

I'll continue thinking about ways to improve both the readibility, as well as content. i'm just worried about trying to put to much in there, and then end up confusing the new readers.

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Slappa, thank you for including that helpful information about electromigration here. That's a great explanation. Where did you originally read about this?

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Slappa, thank you for including that helpful information about electromigration here. That's a great explanation. Where did you originally read about this?

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I didn't read about it anywhere. Through my experience with AMD at their CEC in Texas, chew* for informing me that high leakage chips are best for LN2.

Also, I knew about electron migration, but what I had to think of was why did that effect Phenom II the way it does. The Phenom II's don't like high amounts of voltage so I figured it all out.
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I didn't read about it anywhere. Through my experience with AMD at their CEC in Texas, chew* for informing me that high leakage chips are best for LN2.

Also, I knew about electron migration, but what I had to think of was why did that effect Phenom II the way it does. The Phenom II's don't like high amounts of voltage so I figured it all out.
Slappa, ahhh ok I was just curious. Sometimes it's nice to have some documentation/links to provide to users that are actually curious about the subject.

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I think that do avoid clutter, I will be adding another mini guide to this in the next week or so. This one will be on voltage options in the BIOS (complete with a diagram of where the voltages are applied), as well as mentioning more about how the PhII doesn't like high temps and that at times it might be beneficial to actually lower the voltage for more stability.

Just wanted to update yall, because I'm still working on this. I just want to keep the main post pretty simple, but this additional info will be good, so I'll put it in yet another mini-guide (that will be like 6 I've written for this so far).

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Logan, sounds awesome! I look forward to seeing the mini-guide
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Wow Logan, thank you! That was one of the best things I've read on the subject because I actually felt like I understood it. I'm a complete NEWB to overclocking as this is my first "real" pc and I only built it a few weeks ago. Basically I've caught the sickness of trying to maximize performance. Problem is my friend/co-worker who is more educated and experienced in OC'ing has an intel (E6850) and doesn't know AMD's. He keeps telling me false things like how I need to maintain a 1:1 memory ratio, or that I need to increase my FSB to get max performance. So it was great reading something written so well and AMD specific
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Wow Logan, thank you! That was one of the best things I've read on the subject because I actually felt like I understood it. I'm a complete NEWB to overclocking as this is my first "real" pc and I only built it a few weeks ago. Basically I've caught the sickness of trying to maximize performance. Problem is my friend/co-worker who is more educated and experienced in OC'ing has an intel (E6850) and doesn't know AMD's. He keeps telling me false things like how I need to maintain a 1:1 memory ratio, or that I need to increase my FSB to get max performance. So it was great reading something written so well and AMD specific
Thanks man, I'm glad that I could help you out. And I know there must be other people out there that need this kind of information too. I really do appreciate your comment.

As for the upcoming mini-guide... I have finished the visual parts (AOD screenshot with labeling where the voltages apply, and then the mobo with which parts are attach to which BIOS setting labeled). I have not started the actual written portion though, and it might be a little while before I get it done (just bought a car, went on vacation, girlfriends birthday, and its crunch time at work . However, it still is on the way, its just been delayed.

I'll keep everyone up to date.
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Thanks man, I'm glad that I could help you out. And I know there must be other people out there that need this kind of information too. I really do appreciate your comment.

As for the upcoming mini-guide... I have finished the visual parts (AOD screenshot with labeling where the voltages apply, and then the mobo with which parts are attach to which BIOS setting labeled). I have not started the actual written portion though, and it might be a little while before I get it done (just bought a car, went on vacation, girlfriends birthday, and its crunch time at work . However, it still is on the way, its just been delayed.

I'll keep everyone up to date.
Excellent work Logan. Exactly what I was looking for.
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