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Old 04-25-08   #1 (permalink)
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I've seen a lot floating around the internet about Ganged and Unganged modes for PC RAM. I don't think I'm the only one that has questions about it, but being that info on it is scarce, I thought I would start a thread so that others could post info about it (Unfortunately I don't know a whole lot about it, so that's another reason too )

What is Ganged Mode?

What is Unganged Mode?

Which Mode is Better?

What exactly does it do?
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It is amd's version of Nvidia's Locked vs unlocked architecture.

basically allowing you to use your ram in dual channel vs single channel.

Ganged = dual channel mode for ram. All cores get access to 100% of the ram.

unganged = single channel. Each core gets access to a stick of ram.

In theory, the unganged mode is better as each core will get access to data quicker. In theory.

Some limitations apply... and i dont know muchelse.

Edit: sorry, it also alows you to control the clocks indipendantly from eachother.
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It is amd's version of Nvidia's Locked vs unlocked architecture.

basically allowing you to use your ram in dual channel vs single channel.

Ganged = dual channel mode for ram. All cores get access to 100% of the ram.

unganged = single channel. Each core gets access to a stick of ram.

In theory, the unganged mode is better as each core will get access to data quicker. In theory.

Some limitations apply... and i dont know muchelse.

Edit: sorry, it also alows you to control the clocks indipendantly from eachother.
Good deal. Thank you for the answer . I'll have to play around with it. Might have to wait until I get 4 stix of RAM to be able to use it properly with my Phenom.
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Is this an option in the bios, or do I just stick one stick in slot 1 and the other in slot 2. I have 4 Gigs. 2 x 2gig SLi sticks. Never heard of this. Good question darkvette
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I might be wrong but I think this only applies to the Phenoms so I think I'm out of the equation.
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Is this an option in the bios, or do I just stick one stick in slot 1 and the other in slot 2. I have 4 Gigs. 2 x 2gig SLi sticks. Never heard of this. Good question darkvette
I know its an option in the bios of my MB, but not sure if it only works with Quads.
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so having four cores will i need four sticks of ram? I currently have 2x2gb sticks.
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so having four cores will i need four sticks of ram? I currently have 2x2gb sticks.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you need four sticks.... I believe it also works with two.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you need four sticks.... I believe it also works with two.
It will work with only 2. I was running 2 stix of Crucial Ballistix with a 9850BE before one of the stix went up on me. But, yes - It will work with only 2 sticks. 4 work better though, especially if it's 4x2GB - 8GB???
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It will work with only 2. I was running 2 stix of Crucial Ballistix with a 9850BE before one of the stix went up on me. But, yes - It will work with only 2 sticks. 4 work better though, especially if it's 4x2GB - 8GB???
I've heard from a few people that having 8G of ram will result in slower performance, although there is more ram? Is this true?
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