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AllenG · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by Bohefus

I'm on a tight budget at this time so I don't know about upgrading my MB and ram. You would go with the 720 BE over the 940 BE? It is quite a bit cheaper

indeed, that will be my next processor. When the 940 Phenom II came out, i was sold... but once i found out the am3 processors worked in our board and the Tricore 720 BE was released, i decided thats what im going to get for sure Until atleast a *****en 3+ ghz black edition am3 quadcore comes out. I probably wont bother to upgrade my mobo or ram until i get to the new am3 quadcores myself.

RagingInferno · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by Slink

LoL "defiantly" haha... You should lap the water block and the CPU.

Yes Yes, I can't spell :P especially at 1am in the morning. You should see my spelling and grammar on msn at 3am :P (I was better at math instead)

Hmmmm lapping eh.... I need to think about that one, don't want to screw up a new CPU.

test tube · 03-08-09

Do they require the latest BIOS to run Phenom II's? I'm selling off my m2n32-sli deluxe to a friend with a 720BE but we don't have any AM2 processors laying around in case it doesn't post with the Phenoms. I imagine since I'm getting it back from Asus service division (it was an RMA) that they'll put the latest BIOS in it, but I'm kind of worried now.

N2Gaming · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by princip

which nforce drivers are people using?
I updated a couple of weeks ago and seem to be getting
error number 5 A parity error was detected on DeviceScsinvgts every hour.google tells me its nforce related. so was just wondering if anybody else has had this problem ?

By the looks of the last fille I'm thinking it may be related to the nvidia video. Are you running a GTS video card? or what the other person suggested the scsi sata drivers

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Originally Posted by AllenG

The wireless on our boards is actually plugged into an extra usb header. lol. Our wifi can be put in any machine with a usb header.

The newer boards coming with separate audio cards are running on the pci-e 1x slots.

The Wifi realtek RTL8187L adaptor made by AzurWave does work from the USB ports but the configuration is differernt then your normal usb port configuration so a little tweeking would be needed to get it to work on any normal mobo usb port.

Hope this helps.

N2G

Slink · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by AllenG

Makes sense on the lapping. coming from building motors i know lapping is to make surfaces flat, but i also figured the lapping on processors and waterblocks was to get the actual medium (the water) closer to the cores of the processor to draw heat away faster... But this makes sense, so i think at that i will lap my 6400 just enough to make it flat... wont touch the waterblock though, its perfect.

Keep in mind that you don't necessarily need to "lap" per se--you may only be able to improve something by polishing it. This must be don't by a surface that is "flat as glass", so as not to abrade any edges!! Just google it, or better yet, search here on the OCN for the best lapping resources.

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Originally Posted by AllenG

To anyone buying a processor right now, atleast wait for the am3 quadcores then, seems like a real waste to buy an am2+ processor when they are already getting replaced my am3 processors that will drop right in our boards just as well as the am2+ phenoms. Plus, with both ddr conrollers built on the am3 processors, id imagine that gives up the ability to really pump the crap outta the HT bus and the ram clock. The only thing limiting us at that point is the ram and our chipsets.

Wait wait wait waitaminute waitaminute woah woah--you tellin me our boards will be able to handle a good AM3? Sounds like it might be a waste of a perfectly good AM3, and a lost opportunity to gain some nice performance on your mobo while you wait for some decent AM3's to come out and come down in price.

N2Gaming · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by Slink

Wait wait wait waitaminute waitaminute woah woah--you tellin me our boards will be able to handle a good AM3? Sounds like it might be a waste of a perfectly good AM3, and a lost opportunity to gain some nice performance on your mobo while you wait for some decent AM3's to come out and come down in price.

check the pin configuration on AM3 CPU's I was led to believe they don't have the same number of pins. I could have been misled.

Slink · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by N2Gaming

check the pin configuration on AM3 CPU's I was led to believe they don't have the same number of pins. I could have been misled.

Thank you, N2Gam.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Socket AM3 breaks compatibility with AM2/AM2+ processors due to a subtle change in key placement.

LINK

AllenG · 03-08-09

how else would people be running the phenom II 720's? All the tricores out that are phenom II are socket am3... we can drop am3 processors in our boards, they just ID as Unknown Processor. But, we cant drop am2 or + processors in am3 boards seeing as there is no ddr3 controller in the am2+ processors. The Phenom II 920 & 940 seem to be stepping stones to make us with am2+ boards not feel left out i guess? I'd rather have the am3 processor though since we can use them... why pay for something thats going to be outdated soon enough and doesnt even have the ability to drop into the newer boards we will be seeing in the next few months? Just my opinion though. Go look into the new chips coming out, and also look at the specs of the phenom II 940 vs the phenom II 720. I'd like the faster HT bus personally, even though we might not be able to see it to the fullest potential using our M2N boards. I was pretty bummed when i saw the specs of the am3 quadcores, they dropped the amount of L3 cache! BOOOO! Maybe thats just for the beginning releases... i sure hope so anyways otherwise, thanks but i'll take 3 cores talking across the same speed bus with more L3 cache.

Here's a good read on the new phenom II's, even the comments are worth reading.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3512

spaceballsrules · 03-08-09

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Originally Posted by test tube

Do they require the latest BIOS to run Phenom II's? I'm selling off my m2n32-sli deluxe to a friend with a 720BE but we don't have any AM2 processors laying around in case it doesn't post with the Phenoms. I imagine since I'm getting it back from Asus service division (it was an RMA) that they'll put the latest BIOS in it, but I'm kind of worried now.

Asus won't update the BIOS for you because of an RMA, but you can ask them to send you a BIOS chip that has the 2101 (IIRC) BIOS on it, and just replace the older BIOS chip.

Slink · 03-09-09

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Originally Posted by AllenG

how else would people be running the phenom II 720's? All the tricores out that are phenom II are socket am3... we can drop am3 processors in our boards, they just ID as Unknown Processor. But, we cant drop am2 or + processors in am3 boards seeing as there is no ddr3 controller in the am2+ processors. The Phenom II 920 & 940 seem to be stepping stones to make us with am2+ boards not feel left out i guess? I'd rather have the am3 processor though since we can use them... why pay for something thats going to be outdated soon enough and doesnt even have the ability to drop into the newer boards we will be seeing in the next few months? Just my opinion though. Go look into the new chips coming out, and also look at the specs of the phenom II 940 vs the phenom II 720. I'd like the faster HT bus personally, even though we might not be able to see it to the fullest potential using our M2N boards. I was pretty bummed when i saw the specs of the am3 quadcores, they dropped the amount of L3 cache! BOOOO! Maybe thats just for the beginning releases... i sure hope so anyways otherwise, thanks but i'll take 3 cores talking across the same speed bus with more L3 cache.

Here's a good read on the new phenom II's, even the comments are worth reading.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3512

That's a good point if you plan to migrate your CPU from old board to new, but that begs the ever-present question, "How long do I wait to upgrade, and what is the trade-off when I do?" Whatever suits you right now, do it. If it happens that it works great in your current board, and you have no problem migrating it to your new board, so be it.

Also, I am still not sure that the AM3 will work properly in our board, but... well, it should. To quote Wikipedia again (I'm such a dumbass, sorry):

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

However, AM3 processors are backwards-compatible with Socket AM2+, contingent upon a BIOS update for the motherboard. Manufacturers including Asus,[6] Gigabyte,[7] and others have labeled existing AM2/AM2+ boards as being "AM3 Ready" or similar, indicating that BIOS support is provided for the specified boards. This allows existing AM2/AM2+ systems to upgrade the CPU without having to upgrade any other components.

I'd also like to add this one:

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The sole principal change from AM2+ to AM3 is support for the AM3 processors' integrated memory controller, which now supports DDR3 in addition to DDR2.

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