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Old 07-02-09   #2621 (permalink)
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I dont think a software workaround is going to do it since I can't even get it to boot into windows if I go any higher. There is no "instability" in between. It goes from being rock solid at 234 (ran for 48 hours at full load) to not booting at 235. I can go up to 250 before it stops posting though.
Zx6r1033, if N2Gaming's suggestions do not work then I don't think there is anything else you can really do. From what I've read on the internet it sounds like the Asus M2N-SLI is a "cheap" motherboard that does not offer the same overclocking features/capabilities as the Deluxe. A user here on OCN tried flashing his M2N-SLI to the Deluxe bios but it was a no go. Your last resort would be to hard mod the Vcore but that is probably something you wouldn't want to do. Not to mention the documentation for such a mod is hard to find.

In any case, take a look at your memory voltages, speed and sub-timings. As N2Gaming suggestion this might be one of the culprits.

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What is your ram overclocked to at 234? Have you tried to lower your ram divider to the a slower divider? Have you tried to loosen you ram timings when pushing to that level of overclock. Additionally You may want to check you temps during a full load stress test to make sure it's not temp related. Anther thing is to make sure your power supply is adequate for all your hardware and that you don't have any power spikes or dips while overclocking. More volts will mostlikely get your cpu to boot into windows but make sure you exhause all your options before you throw in the towel.

Edit: Do you have a chipset and HT link voltage option in the bios? If so have you tried to bump those up a notch or two?
CPU: 2925mhz @ 12.5x
Temp: 38c Idle, 44c under load. (ambient temps are around 35c at the moment)

FSB 234mhz
HTC: 5x / 1170mhz (dropping to 4x made no difference)
Mobo temp: 35c Idle, 35c under load.

Memory: 417mhz (Kingston Hyper-X 1066 memory... Mobo only supports 800)

I haven't tried loosening the timings yet, nor have I tried to change the ram divider. Mainly because, if these options actually exist in my bios, I don't know where to find them. (Overclocking is still relatively new to me.)


That said...


I decided to type out every option in Bios that pertains to overclocking in hopes that someone smarter than I can figure this out. Also, I thought it would be a good thing to post in case anyone in the future has this problem and comes looking for answers. I hope no one minds.


This is for the M2N-SLI V0903 Bios, under "Advanced".
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JumperFree Configuration
-AI Tuning
--Manual
--Auto
--Standard
--AI Overclock
-CPU Frequency (200-400)
-PCI Express Clock (100-145)
-DDR2 Voltage
--Auto
--1.8v
--1.85v
--1.90v
--1.95v
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-CPU Voltage (1.300-0.800v / .025v steps)
-PCI Clock Synchronization Moade
--(Auto, To CPU, and 33.33mhz)

CPU Configuration
-DRAM Configuration
--(tcl, trcd, trp, tras, trc, twr, trrd, trwt, twtr, trtp, twrrd, twrwr, trdrd, trfc)
--1T/2T Memory Timing
-Hyper Transport Frequency (1x-5x, auto)
-AMD Virtualization (enable, Disable)
-CPU C1E Support (enable, disable)
-AMD Live! (enable, disable)
-AMD Cool;n;Quiet Function (enable, disable)
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Zx6r1033, if N2Gaming's suggestions do not work then I don't think there is anything else you can really do. From what I've read on the internet it sounds like the Asus M2N-SLI is a "cheap" motherboard that does not offer the same overclocking features/capabilities as the Deluxe. A user here on OCN tried flashing his M2N-SLI to the Deluxe bios but it was a no go. Your last resort would be to hard mod the Vcore but that is probably something you wouldn't want to do. Not to mention the documentation for such a mod is hard to find.

In any case, take a look at your memory voltages, speed and sub-timings. As N2Gaming suggestion this might be one of the culprits.

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ZX6r1033. I don't have that paticular board but your ram divider may be under the DRAM Configuration. Look for a setting like DDR800 and adjust it to the next one down. I don't se a chipset option in your bios unless it's behind the CPU Configuration.

Maybe G-Byte can help you find some of the settings your looking for. That's if they exist.
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CPU: 2925mhz @ 12.5x
Temp: 38c Idle, 44c under load. (ambient temps are around 35c at the moment)

FSB 234mhz
HTC: 5x / 1170mhz (dropping to 4x made no difference)
Mobo temp: 35c Idle, 35c under load.

Memory: 417mhz (Kingston Hyper-X 1066 memory... Mobo only supports 800)

I haven't tried loosening the timings yet, nor have I tried to change the ram divider. Mainly because, if these options actually exist in my bios, I don't know where to find them. (Overclocking is still relatively new to me.)
Zx6r1033, everything looks good. Since we're dealing with DDR2 1066 memory there is probably not a need to lower the divider. You are well below the factory stock speed (533Mhz). To adjust the sub-timings and dram frequency go into Advanced -> CPU Configuration -> DRAM Configuration. To adjust the frequency go to "Memory Clock Frequency". The available options should be Auto, DDR2 400, DDR2 533, DDR2 667 and DDR2 800. The sub-timings should be set to [Auto]. The primary ones to adjust are Tcl, Trcd, Trp and Tras. For example, if your sub-timings are 5-5-5-15 then it should be 5 (Tcl), 5 (Trcd), 5 (Trp) and 15 (Tras). It goes in that order. Make sure the voltage (VDimm) is set correctly as well.

The HT (hypertransport) speed is fine. I'd leave the multiplier at 5x. From what I heard AM2 processors overclock quite well between 1200 - 1400Mhz HT. By the way your 4800+ overclock is not bad from it's stock speed (2.4Ghz).

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thlnk3r I totally snoozed on his ram being DDR1066. Oops. You may even be able to tighten up your ram a little if your not able to push it faster by ocing it you may get a little better perfomance by tightening the timings a little to 4.4.4.12.2T if you ram is comfy w/those settings. Have you tried to find out what the limiting factor in your overclock is? You could find out your mobo's HT limit, the cpu's Max Freq limit and your ram limit." well your ram prolly wont be the limit as much as your mobo and cpu. Try to lower you cpu multiplier to a multi like 7 or 8 and then push your HT FSB up until you can't boot. That will tell you if it's a cpu or mobo limitation. If it's cpu then mostlikely you will need a volt mod to increase your cpu CoreV or a diff mobo. If it's your mobo HT limit then you may have to try to increase you chipset voltage some how if you have the setting in your bios.

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By the way your 4800+ overclock is not bad from it's stock speed (2.4Ghz).

Good job

Thanks, but I know she has more than what I can get at the moment. (it is a 2.5, btw) I'm only getting 17% over stock, and I have a bad feeling it is the voltage that is the bottleneck. I've read around, and 3000-3100 seems to be the average for OCs on this cpu. Either that, or mine is one of the lower ends on the scale.

No matter... I am looking at either the AM3 720BE or the AM2+ 940BE, so this CPU won't be in my primary pc for too much longer. She will always have a soft spot in my heart, though... This current config is what I have been learning to OC on.

Overclocking might have to go on hold while I wait for a new Mobo though. I can only squeeze a little bit out of whatever CPU I decide to get before this mobo bottlenecks things again.
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Zx6r1033, no worries man. It's a shame the none deluxe doesn't have all the nice bios features. N2Gaming suggested that you go through everything and find the limits of each component. That is usually the first thing I do. That process always gives me a nice baseline to start off with. Though I'd have to admit, since 235HTT is pretty low it almost sounds like the Vcore is the limiting factor here

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