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Old 09-07-09   #1 (permalink)
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Smile PCI Express 2.0 vs 1.0

Is there a big performance hit if I stay with a 4850 on a pci express 1.0.
Plan on redo my desktop and wonder if I should upgrade mobo and that seems to be the only to bother me.

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Not a big difference especially if its 'just' a 4850
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Its going and will be always just 4850. With passive cooler and no to little oc.
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You won't see a difference with a 4850, I barely saw a difference with a GTX 260.
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About the same difference as me and Ron Jermy. Just an inch
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YES!

With PCIe 2.0, you have got much more bandwidth which will fully use the video card, therefore giving better performance. I noticed a huge difference from going from PCIe 1.0 to PCIe 2.0 with my HD4670.

If you want to just upgrade the motherboard, then I would recommend this AM2+ motherboard.

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P

AM2 CPU's will work with this motherboard and if you ever decide to get an AM3 CPU like the Phenom II X4 955BE, then the motherboard will support that.

I assume the GSkill you are getting is DDR2...
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That board is ugly and my card is red.
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I might be wrong but with what I have read. A PCIe 2.0 GPU can only make use of x16 if you use two you can have 2x16. One card can never do more than x16 but two if 2.0 can use 2x16=32. SLI on 1.0 is 2x8? You see. So for one GPU it makes zero difference. The comment before about noticed the difference between 2.0 and 1.0 on a 4670? Consider they have external cards that use an Express Card slot PCIe x1. I seriously doubt x16 is any kind of limitation. PCIe 2.0 is not x32, it is 2x16 so one card gets no advantage.
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Thanks. been reading that too.
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System: Dell Inspiron 1720
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T7500
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Dell Santa Rosa
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4 GB's Of Gskill
Graphics Card
8600M GT 680/1360/540
Hard Drive
WD 120GB
Sound Card
Intel HD Audio
Power Supply
9 Cell Battery
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Insprion 1720
CPU cooling
Stock with AS5
GPU cooling
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If I get the chance when I get home from work, I may do some benchmark tests/ game runs with one 4850 @ Pci-e 2.0 x16 and then @ x8 (effectively Pci-e 1.0 x16)
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