sugarton

There is absolutely no reason at all to try and force XP drivers into Vista. At all. Just use the Vista drivers. They were specifically developed for that operating system (which is why the Nvidia XP drivers don't work in Vista). You are using the drivers in a way they were not intended to be used, and the fact that you even got the XP drivers to work in Vista is a fluke in itself.

I guess I shouldn't expect any different from a guy who insists on running Windows 2000, PCI graphics cards and games that are 7-10 years old though. No reasoning for any of that. At all. It's beyond personal preference and into just sheer stupidity or trolling.

I swear, 90% of your posts just make me throw my fists in the air and howl with frustration.

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Force? I don't have to force to do anything, because they install just fine.

Well see i would do that, if Vista gaming performance was faster and less demanding than XP, but in reality XP is faster than Vista. It doesn't matter tho, as soon as i get my New Dual Core system, i am going to use XP Pro on it, so i won't have to deal with Vista anymore. Not saying Vista is bad, Vista is the fastest and most Stable OS i ever used, however as for Gaming XP waaay faster. Even if i had faster cards which i should soon, Xp is the best OS to use IMO. I guess i will use Vista or Win7 once Windows Xp and windows 2000 does not function anymore with anything, but i don't see that happening anytime soon.

And?

Well someone else got them working before i did, over at guru3d, so i just tried them myself and the dude was right, they work.

Yes i plan to use Windows 2000/SP4 with a Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q8300 when i buy that rig later this year. And yes i plan to always use PCI cards on that machine. See unlike some people i am not obsessed with graphics or obsessed with getting 100 or 200fps at super high resolutions.

And btw, about the PCI thing, you really don't wanna know what i am thinking on that issue, lately i am deciding should i even move away from PCI, just have to wait and see i guess.

I didn't know Far Cry 2 was a 7-10 year old game, you wanna try that again, this time make sense next time alright.

Stupidity? How so, because i refused to build computers and shop online, who cares or wait, its because i use PCI cards? Trolling? No, i have a difference of opinion.

um ok, you are what 5 years old or something? Grow up man, its only a computer, stop focusing your attention on " worldly things " ....... Please just grow up alright.

headkase

So when Vista was released in 2006 and driver incompatibility was such a major issue that it put an albatross around its neck for another 2 years we were just all stupid because we didn't just use XP drivers? Quit talking out of your ass. Just because people have reported success with getting these drivers to work on Vista does not mean they are XP drivers. Disassemble the installers script *IF* they really do work then the only logical conclusion is that Vista/7 drivers are included but not referenced in that package. Anything else is bunk, please don't demonstrate your ignorance again.

SilverPotato

Doesn't Windows 7 have backwards compatibility with both XP and Vista drivers?

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headkase

7 is mostly compatible with Vista which means it only needs a few tweaks. Vista and 7 are very different than XP.

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Are you saying i am lying?
I am using XP drivers on vista. Every game i play now is running in XP mode, thus why everytime i play crysis or warhead it says dx9 in the displayinfo 1. How about you install Vista 32bit and install it for yourself

headkase

Are you saying I'm lying? Read about the Windows Display Driver Model I linked. XP drivers do not work on Vista. If they did Vista would not have received such a bad name when it first came out because of driver incompatibility. Look in the .inf file that you used in the device manager with have disc - those references will be for Vista/7 files which are not used by the actual XP installer and XP files. Again, I reiterate, you do not know what you are talking about.

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2400HD = Vista Cataylst drivers = Good, but nothing great
2400HD = New 9.7 beta XP drivers = Triple the performance, every game runs in DirectX 9.

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Vista catalyst drivers do not give me the performance that xp does, trust me these are xp drivers and for some reason they work, and the only error , in the CCC panel it does not show the direct3d driver version, but in 3dmark2006 it does. Also notice in dxdiag it reads the total amount of memory correctly. In Vista, it will say something like 1404 or 1718 or something like that.

Like i said before, install Vista 32bit for yourself, than install the Drivers, these aren't vista or win7 drivers. With Nvidia drivers for some reason they do not work and install correctly, well they install, but i get BSOD in most games, or maybe its only with the 8400gs, who knows.

headkase

I don't doubt you that they work but I just cannot accept binary compatibility between the driver models. Without binary compatibility the only logical remainder is that that package in particular has code for Vista/7. Even if the actual installer does not reference it. Otherwise why shouldn't the nVidia drivers work as well?

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I have no idea, i tried installing the new drives or the 185 series with my 8400GS and i get this:

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/09/07/03/gft.png

If i install the 175.16 drivers, i get the same in GPU-Z, but some of the data in other programs are read correctly , even in DXDIAG. However, i get the BSOD in mostly ever game i tried to play, but a few of them. The only reason i am using catalyst xp drivers with Vista, because i haven't bought my other computer system yet , the Compaq Dual Core, when i buy it, i will install Xp as my main OS to use. But right now, its pretty cool that they work on Vista, i didn't have any problems installing the display driver or the CCC. No errors or nothing.

Not sure why nvidia doesn't work, but it could be just with my card. I guess someone who has don't have a 8400gs can try installing Nvidia drivers and see what happens.