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Straight up, put me up on there, I ran Crysis On medium with a x800xl (that doenst even support SM 3.0). True I was only getting 30fps Average, and sometimes would drop down as low as 13-14fps, but I still played, beat, and highly enjoyed the game.
I play COD4 on HIGH, with everything turned up, (expect Dynamic lighting) at 1024x768 with that x800xl, GOTA love it!
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Currently running an x800xt on one computer, and that same old x800xl on another pc
Your X800XL actually played Crysis at 30fps? What resolution and settings?

I had a X800XL that was replaced by my 7600GT- which chokes on nearly anything higher than 800x600 medium/low settings for newer games like Crysis, STALKER, and COD4.
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Your X800XL actually played Crysis at 30fps? What resolution and settings?

I had a X800XL that was replaced by my 7600GT- which chokes on nearly anything higher than 800x600 medium/low settings for newer games like Crysis, STALKER, and COD4.
a 7600gt has a 128bit memory interface versus the 256bit on the x800xl, and the x800xl has a 400mhz core, and a 500mhz (1000 DDR). all in all its much more powerful than the 7600gt. Only thing no shader model 3.0 support. and I ran crysis on medium at 1024x768. On a 939 SC 3800+ 2.4ghz Athlon, I did have 2gigs of ram, that might of helped. But because of the shader model I did have some graphical glitches, like the smoke from the warships, and well any kind of dynamic smoke in the game just appeared like grey blocks to me. But that wasnt a big issue.

I am playing STALKER right now on a x800xt, on HIGH (4x AA, Grass, and viewing distance all the way up, and anisotropic filtering at 8x) at 800x600, getting 50fps average, only time I have ever dropped bellow 30fps is when I am in the BAR, and my X800XL runs COD4 Flawlessly with everything turned up at 1024x768.


if my cards had SM3.0 i wouldn't even consider upgrading right now, but because of this I cant play Bioshock, or Mass Effect, which are 2 games I really want to play.
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a 7600gt has a 128bit memory interface versus the 256bit on the x800xl, and the x800xl has a 400mhz core, and a 500mhz (1000 DDR). all in all its much more powerful than the 7600gt. Only thing no shader model 3.0 support. and I ran crysis on medium at 1024x768. On a 939 SC 3800+ 2.4ghz Athlon, I did have 2gigs of ram, that might of helped. But because of the shader model I did have some graphical glitches, like the smoke from the warships, and well any kind of dynamic smoke in the game just appeared like grey blocks to me. But that wasnt a big issue.

I am playing STALKER right now on a x800xt, on HIGH (4x AA, Grass, and viewing distance all the way up, and anisotropic filtering at 8x) at 800x600, getting 50fps average, only time I have ever dropped bellow 30fps is when I am in the BAR, and my X800XL runs COD4 Flawlessly with everything turned up at 1024x768.


if my cards had SM3.0 i wouldn't even consider upgrading right now, but because of this I cant play Bioshock, or Mass Effect, which are 2 games I really want to play.
On paper the X800XL should be a somewhat more powerful card, however I found that it by far lacked the real world performance I was expecting. Interesting to note I was upgraded from the standard X800XL to a Fatal1ty X800XL after my 3rd RMA which was factory OC'd with dual BIOS for 425/475 cores (I forget the memory settings.) IMO it was a bigger POS than the standard model- the 425MHz core was almost stable, and the 475MHz setting was unusable.

The 7600GT actually has been a comperable if not slightly better card IMO- not that I was intending it as an upgrade when I bought it, just something comperable performance-wise to "temporarily" replace the X800XL which had been RMAd 5 times already and was on it's 6th.

I ended up keeping the 7600GT because the benchmarks between the 2 were of neglegable difference, and I was seeing better FRAPS in games I was playing at the time with the 7600GT. At any rate I have not been truly happy with any videocard I've bought since my Ti4600. I'm looking forward to the HD4870.
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On paper the X800XL should be a somewhat more powerful card, however I found that it by far lacked the real world performance I was expecting. Interesting to note I was upgraded from the standard X800XL to a Fatal1ty X800XL after my 3rd RMA which was factory OC'd with dual BIOS for 425/475 cores (I forget the memory settings.) IMO it was a bigger POS than the standard model- the 425MHz core was almost stable, and the 475MHz setting was unusable.

The 7600GT actually has been a comperable if not slightly better card IMO- not that I was intending it as an upgrade when I bought it, just something comperable performance-wise to "temporarily" replace the X800XL which had been RMAd 5 times already and was on it's 6th.

I ended up keeping the 7600GT because the benchmarks between the 2 were of neglegable difference, and I was seeing better FRAPS in games I was playing at the time with the 7600GT. At any rate I have not been truly happy with any videocard I've bought since my Ti4600. I'm looking forward to the HD4870.
Well I dont know, I bought my x800xl when ATi was still ATi, so I got the "made by ATi" card. I have not had a single problem with it for the last 3 years, and doing a decent bit of gaming. Its weak card by todays standards no doubt,, but back then it was a solid contender and was relatively cheaper than the NVIDEA counterpart, still it ran the OPENGL games of the time with ease, like DOOM3 and Prey.

I don't have any experience with NVIDIA cards as of late, last NVIDIA card I owned was a TNT2 32mb, when it was still usable too, I played Baldur's Gate on that card.

I can take some screen shots of COD4 for ya, on my x800xt, if you want to see how it looks with the FPS that I am getting.
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I'll tell you what...I was expecting UBER benchmarks from the 8800GTX in the Cosmos rig I just built. But at stock speed the HD3870X2 is 3K above it in 06. Not that 3Dmark scores are everything...but they do give a rough aproximation of performance in real gaming. Of course each game will play differently on each brand of card...but if you have $400 to spend on a single card it hardly makes sense to ignore ATI...for whatever reason Nvidia (perhaps banking on their years of dominance in the market) feels justified in pricing their product higher depite no longer being "better" in every regard.

I have owned cards from both MFRs and built plenty of Nv rigs for people...but I have always liked the way the ATI cards looked ooon the display...even when they had terrible drivers and support, a less powerful product and generally cost more than I feel they should they still look great in 2D . I like how they look at deskstop lol. And since I spend most of my time working in 2D not 3D it's important to me when it comes to working with photos and stuff.

I wanted to thank Anqt31 for compiling the list of Tiders and really appreciate his help as I am up to my ears in shop work these days.

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