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I see your red, and call it blue
Posted 03-02-08 at 09:13 PM by Chipp
I got to thinking tonight about perception, specifically that related to sound, but it's pretty universal when you zoom out. I was wondering why people (myself included) can feel the need to do things that are anywhere from relatively unsubstantiated to obviously made up. Placebo effect didn't seem to cover it - nobody ever said the given changes were going to make a difference at all, or how much change they would make. That led to the broader thought about perception in general.
Suppose you're very young - 3 or 4 or however old you were when you began to learn colors. You're playing with your toys, one of which happens to be a fire truck. Somebody points out to you that the truck is "red". Now, you have no concept of naming colors, but now that somebody has done it for you you can identify that the fire truck and this text and the stop sign are all red. But, what if the color your eyes are actually seeing is not the same color that the other person's eyes are seeing? That is, what if what you call black is actually the what I see when you say red? And interesting notion, isn't it?
Something like that would be totally unprovable. Nobody can use anybody else's eyes and brain - but think about all that it would explain. Preferences in color? I think so. Now apply that same concept to sound - and while you're at it, pardon my mindless ideas. I'm just thinking out loud. Dangerous stuff, isn't it?
Suppose you're very young - 3 or 4 or however old you were when you began to learn colors. You're playing with your toys, one of which happens to be a fire truck. Somebody points out to you that the truck is "red". Now, you have no concept of naming colors, but now that somebody has done it for you you can identify that the fire truck and this text and the stop sign are all red. But, what if the color your eyes are actually seeing is not the same color that the other person's eyes are seeing? That is, what if what you call black is actually the what I see when you say red? And interesting notion, isn't it?
Something like that would be totally unprovable. Nobody can use anybody else's eyes and brain - but think about all that it would explain. Preferences in color? I think so. Now apply that same concept to sound - and while you're at it, pardon my mindless ideas. I'm just thinking out loud. Dangerous stuff, isn't it?
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"A collection of photographs, interesting thoughts, and elaborate audio musings."
I too have thought of something alike, such as every person is not speaking the same language, but the human brain is so smart that it can translate what we're saying  It means we're all talking different languages, with different layouts (layouts being the individual languages, english, german, danish etc.) |
Posted 03-03-08 at 03:08 PM by gonX
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Such is why all forms of personal perception, including opinions, are both right and wrong.
It's like that old mind boggling question, "Is the glass half empty or half full?". The real answer is there is no glass. Ponder on that one for a bit. Ever hear the story about the first European ships coming to the eastern shores of America? Apparently none of the Native American villagers could see them on the horizon. They had never seen such vessels, and as it didn't exist in their "reality" it was hard for them to perceive. It was their wise men, men trained to see outside of the box, that noticed something strange on the horizon. At frist it was said to look almost like an abstract space. Upon a long while of gazing and trying to take it in, they finally began to see the ships. They then reported this to the villagers, who trusting in the wise men, began to also be able to see the ships. It's these types of sentiments that really make you wonder what "reality" truly is, and if anything we see is real or if it's just something we've been programmed into acknowledging. Also makes you wonder what we DON'T see, based on said programming. |
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Posted 03-03-08 at 03:51 PM by Heru
Updated 03-03-08 at 03:54 PM by Heru |
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Ah yes the forms... Good old Plato
Thanks for bringing this up Chipp, it brings back memories of my first college Philosophy class  |
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Posted 03-04-08 at 04:43 PM by mega_option101
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Chipp - "I'm just thinking out loud. Dangerous stuff, isn't it?"
"The only dangerous idea, is that ideas are dangerous." Don't quote that as exact, but that's from a book I recently read. Perception is definitely fun to ponder and experiment with. Unfortunately, said experimentation is considered illicit by the federal & local governments. Heru is right, there is no glass. It's obviously a cup.  |
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Posted 05-05-08 at 01:09 AM by ILOVEPOTtery
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My cup. My plastic cup.
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Posted 05-06-08 at 11:57 AM by Heru
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