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Are Video Games Truly Bad for Kids?

Posted 03-15-08 at 06:25 PM by OmegaNemesis28
Every person (gamers) that reads an article or news report about video games causing some kid to go rampart or kill someone - we just roll our eyes because it's completely blown out of proportion no? It really truly is. It's a big 1,000 lb guerrilla in the room gamers love to feast on when it comes to the news/media today. But thats not the point of this post.

The other day, I was watching a recorded episode of "Supernanny". (Don't ask, Im very weird when it comes to TV O.o) The main point of the show is a nanny comes in and helps the parents parent their kids better with techniques and all that other crap. The episode I watched kinda centered around video games because the kids were playing alot of T+ games. Then they would turn around and repeat the violence.
(Obviously it was exaggerated like it always is )

But when I keep thinking back to it, even though it was exaggerated, the kids were like 3-5 years old. It kinda got me putting more brain power into reading articles about "video game related incidents" then I normally would with a simple roll of my eyes.

Really, I truly believe video games are a form of art. Just like movies and novels are in a sense. They are literally made in the same way. Now, kids obviously don't realize this nor do they care. I kinda don't blame them. What Im getting to is that there are alot of positive thing about gaming in general.

Gaming helps expand the imagination of kids just like a movie or book would. Games like Final Fantasy (Im going refer to it alot - forewarning), Sonic, Resident Evil, and all those others good "oldies" for my generation really got me going as a kid. I remember I would absolutely love to play with my little plastic sword and pretend to be in my own Final Fantasy/Resident Evil adventure or something. I would spend almost all of my day basically expanding what I used to think of it as a world where anything goes.

It also helps (at least the old games) to read and expand vocabulary. Again, when I was younger I remember being able to read so great for my age that I was the ace of the class. I could use and understand what would be considered astronomical words for my grade level (but are kind of like second hand for me now) all because of games where you -HAD- to read like Final Fantasy. You wouldn't be able to not only understand what was happening but you wouldn't know what to do! Most portable games still do the reading only with maybe some voice acting. Voice acting kind of takes away from the reading experience.

And then there is hand-eye coordination, thinking outside the box more, teamwork, and all those other good things. BUT - you can't deny it.... there are negative sides to gaming too, where this is hopefully like the main beef of my post so far.

When I think back to that Supernanny episode - the nanny went ahead and explained each ESRB rating to the children. I thought that was one of the best things to do because if a child wants to buy or play a game - they should at least deserve a reason WHY NOT.

Games that are above T rating really shouldn't be allowed for kids to play (at least 8-9 or younger). Now, this is an obvious thing. But children still do!!!! Why? THE PARENTS.

Everything boils down to the parents not taking control of their children when it comes to gaming. Half the time they dont even know what an ESRB rating is until they get a hold of the box after the fact their 5 year old son is imitating language from a game like Grand Theft Auto or moves/shooting from a game like Call of Duty or Halo. Sometimes not even the game itself but the people who play multiplayer.

And then of course we see articles of some 10 year old kid turns around and shoots another kid. Regardless if it's related to video games or not
(stupid news media)..... it's the parents fault. Infact, in a way I think it gives a clue to parents that they should start taking control of their younger children playing video games (if they haven't already). But at the same time we know its a bad thing because it not only gives us gamers a bad rep, but it also leads some parents from restricting gaming completely.

Basically, all I'm trying to get to is that.... It all boils down to the parents! The news and all those people who blame video games on some incidents..... It may or may not be related to video games. We don't know ourselves 100%. But, even if it IS NOT - it's still the parents fault.

I just felt like posting this and getting it out of my system. Most people already agree on this stuff enough but I had to vent somehow.
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MrQ's Avatar
You got it right! The parents are the ones that need to take control. The kids are kids they are still doing a great part of their learning right now and its the parents job to guide, instruct, and discipline them.

Thanks for a great post!
Posted 03-17-08 at 04:35 PM by MrQ MrQ is offline
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IcedEarth's Avatar
No it isn't he's wrong.

You are right in the fact that it is the parents job to teach and guide a 'kid' through the early stages of their life.

but what you are saying is crazy. You are THE anti Jack Thompson. Both of you are wrong, and both of you need to find a middle ground.

It's funny, because you all say Jack is venting and blaming societies problems on games. You lot are doing the EXACT same thing! You are just slamming it all on the parents.

How many 'young kids' have you read about, doing violent acts imitated from computer games? There are none! There all in their teens and upwards.

you guys have got to understand, parents can only do so much for a kid. Was you listening to your parents at the age of 14+? Was you not playing GTA and Resident Evil at 14+?

Yes you were, so lets condemn your parents shall we? No?

Precisely!

Lets just say for example, Omega. You just went out and shot up some gansta trippin homies for their banger. Why? Because you love GTA.

Would that be your parents fault? No! Absolutely not!

It is YOUR fault.

There are times in life when a young adult has to take responsibility for themselves. We can't just slam it on the parents. Fair enough, if the kid had a rough environment when he was growing up, then yes the parents are PART to blame. But this is not always the case, everyone can go nuts, everyone has a breaking point.

When someone commits such an act, it would happen regardless of a game, or a book, or a TV show.

It will happen regardless of what the parent says or does. No parent can predict that their kid is going to shoot someone, and if they could. You could bet your bottom dollar that they would fight life and death, heaven and hell to prevent it.

I am sorry, but i just feel it is naive to blame it all on the parents.
Posted 03-28-08 at 06:06 PM by IcedEarth IcedEarth is offline
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OmegaNemesis28's Avatar
Ok then who do we blame?

Because lets say some 9 year old started played some really violent game and one day grew up being some crazed serial killer who happens to steal cars.... do we blame video games? Most people may, but then - who's fault is it that he got a hold of the game? We can't blame ESRB, the devs, the store - we have to blame the parents.

Your comment made little to no sense.

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Lets look at it this way.
When kids are young and they see something fun and apparently unharmful... they get addicted to it. So they see video games, its not harmful but fun and enjoyable. So they play alot. Now are you going to say that its the 5 year old's fault that he's attempted to play a video game regardless if it's violent or not?

You're crazy if you think its his fault he's playing the game. You're crazy if you think just because a 12 year old is playing some violent game - its his own fault if he ends up becoming some violent person. ITS THE PARENTS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING HIM ITS WRONG!
Posted 03-28-08 at 06:46 PM by OmegaNemesis28 OmegaNemesis28 is offline
Updated 03-28-08 at 06:50 PM by OmegaNemesis28
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Cryraxz's Avatar
Fantastic read
Posted 03-28-08 at 06:57 PM by Cryraxz Cryraxz is offline
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OmegaNemesis28's Avatar
Big discussion happened in chat (1 baka of course went and ruined the whole damn thing by trolling and taking it 1 step further then it should've been) but seriously, there is no doubting it. It's either the parents fault and/or the vendors fault but even then - if the vendor supplies an 8-14 year old kid a game thats M like Grand Theft Auto... its the parents fault by not watching what that kid does.

And if a kid see's a violent game and doesn't realize that its wrong to use curse words or shoot other people... its the parents fault again. Kids learn by example, and if its the parents DUTY and JOB to teach kids good/wrong.
Posted 03-28-08 at 07:19 PM by OmegaNemesis28 OmegaNemesis28 is offline
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IcedEarth's Avatar
OK, maybe you didn't read my whole post...i don't know. But lets review it again.

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How many 'young kids' have you read about, doing violent acts imitated from computer games? There are none! There all in their teens and upwards.

you guys have got to understand, parents can only do so much for a kid. Was you listening to your parents at the age of 14+? Was you not playing GTA and Resident Evil at 14+?
Yes, i said i agree with you! In the fact that if the kid is of a young age it is the parents job to guide and protect. But like i said, please find me a story that links any kids under the age of 12 with violence motivated by a video game.

You can't.

Like i said, it is of people that are 16+

Are you serious in the fact that YOU want PARENTS to shield 16 year olds from the big bad world?

Hell, most games rated at 16 involve violence! Not to an extreme degree but they do! You cannot shield a 16+ year old from games, nor can you sheild them from mature content.

what that kid does, the responsibility of their actions lies on their heads and their heads only!

If you are seriously expecting to blame parents for a young adults actions you are deluded!

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Because lets say some 9 year old started played some really violent game and one day grew up being some crazed serial killer who happens to steal cars.... do we blame video games?
When has this ever happened? When the hell has anyone under the age of 12 committed such an act? YES when it does happen, i would quite happily blame the parents.

But you cannot just make up a story and say 'well if it does happen it would be the parents fault. Therefor parents are to blame for everything'

It is naive, ignorant and stupid.

That is one of amny problems in this world. No one can take responsibility for their own actions. You liek to shove it onto someone else.

When you become a parent. And in the apparent event that your kid (aged 16) turns round and shoots his mate in the head because he's crazy. Would that be your fault? Even though you have given him every bloody chance in life.

No, it would be the kids fault. And when you are in your teens, or at least higher teens. You are capable of making your own decisions. Therefor the parents influence is negligible.
Posted 03-29-08 at 10:43 AM by IcedEarth IcedEarth is offline
Updated 03-29-08 at 10:46 AM by IcedEarth
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txtmstrjoe's Avatar
I think the problems with this discussion have everything to do with a "one size fits all" kind of explanation. What I mean is, it's probably not wise to generalize any kind of explanation or reasoning for why people do what they do.

In some cases, I would buy that perhaps parents don't do enough to raise their children correctly. However, you have to allow for the possibility that, as Iced Earth has said, no matter what the parents have tried or done, no matter how good such parents are, something else distorts the child's outlook on the world.

It doesn't even have to be video games.

For sure, though, it's simply impossible to say definitively that it's just one reason (or one type of reason) why people do the things they do. Nothing exists in a vacuum, after all, and things happen because of an entire chain of events.

At least that's what I think.
Posted 03-29-08 at 12:10 PM by txtmstrjoe txtmstrjoe is offline
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OmegaNemesis28's Avatar
@iced earth

you're right- people above the age of 16 or so you can't protect, they're at the ages where the parents shouldn't be involved unless its dire.

BUT - from the posted news lately on OCN have been of much younger ages, not to mention some things being shot around on the news. Half the time when it has something to do with supposedly "video game violence" - its usually a younger age(s)!

You may be able to make right or wrong decisions towards those ages 10 and up but you cannot deny that those decisions are blurred very very easily. Whether it be through influence of other friends or by examples of not only the everyday frustrations of "life" but by the parents. The latter being probably the most common.

For example, latest article on OCN posted about how this young boy shot another boy because he wouldn't hand over the video game. Let's think...
#1) Did the video game even have anything to do with the shooting itself other then the fact the kid wouldn't hand it over?

#2)How the hell did the kid get the gun in the first place? Common answer would be the parents who happened to forgot to lock wherever they hid it.

#3) Where did the anger come from enough to kill the kid? Most common answers would be that either his parents misguided him, the video games really did affect him, he is/was mental, or was treated badly enough all his life to want to kill the friend! Now, 3/4 of those "common" answers would be the parents fault. How? Lets do it in order - the parents didn't teach the kid right, the parents weren't monitoring their child when it came to video games, nothing they could do being that he was mental so there is an exception, and that the parents didn't pay attention to the kid's surroundings.

Thats just comming from that article!

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Someone the other day was talking about how it could the the vendors fault for letting kids getting a hold of games they shouldn't play regardless of age. Yes, I agree it would be completely in the wrong of the vendor but it would also be the parents! The parent's let the kid go and do whatever the hell he wanted to. Which some people believe is right, but the parents should at least KNOW what he/she is doing.
Posted 03-29-08 at 11:16 PM by OmegaNemesis28 OmegaNemesis28 is offline
Updated 03-29-08 at 11:19 PM by OmegaNemesis28
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IcedEarth's Avatar
I agree the vendor is somewhat to blame, in the fact they actually sold an under age kid an over aged game.

But i don't see how that is the parents fault, when i was 16 i was out with my mates going to the local off license and getting pissed. Not on street corners or anything, was always in a house.

My parents had no idea what i was doing, just like a situation of a games store. You can't expect a parent to keep an eye on a child 24/7. Just because a kid buys a game without the parents knowledge does not mean the parents are to blame. Hell, it is pretty easy to do most childhood things undetected by the parents.....it's what kids do.

Again with the gun, if it is indeed the parents gun then yes. Negligence did play a part, but i wouldn't say it is their fault that a murder happened. They just give him the means to murder. But we all know, a gun is a very easy thing to acquire for anyone if they want one so badly. So maybe society is a part to blame as well.

Where did the anger come from? Anger can come from anywhere. Like i said, everyone has a breaking point. It could have come from the parents, but then it could have come from a number of things. Some kids are very good at hiding emotions, in most suicide cases the parents don't have a clue until the kid bites the dust. Not because of negligence but because most people don't like to show weakness in front of their parents. But yes, parents can aid towards it.

Mental disorders. I suppose this could also go either way, the parents could be to blame in the fact that it is pretty obvious if your kid is failing in the mental health department. But then sometimes it isn't so easy to tell either, like you say.

Did the video game have anything to do with it? No one will ever know, i don't personally think it matters. The video game could have just been a 'trigger' but then there are a lot of things that could have been triggers. It just happens the video game played a crucial part in it this time round.

I am not saying things like this do not happen due to parental neglect. I am just saying most people are quick to jump the gun and blame the parents for everything, when in reality you will find the parents either did their best to stop it or was totally oblivious by no fault of their own.
Posted 03-30-08 at 11:12 AM by IcedEarth IcedEarth is offline
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OmegaNemesis28's Avatar
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I am not saying things like this do not happen due to parental neglect. I am just saying most people are quick to jump the gun and blame the parents for everything, when in reality you will find the parents either did their best to stop it or was totally oblivious by no fault of their own.
Personally - I rather see the parents being blamed then the actuall video games themselves. Because 99.9% of the time - video games truly dont have anything to do with it unless the person was completely mental and took it as the real thing.

My main point of all this is, that video games aren't bad at all. Minus the whole addiction thing. *cough* WoW *cough*
Posted 03-30-08 at 03:09 PM by OmegaNemesis28 OmegaNemesis28 is offline
 
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