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CattleRustler · 12-14-08

all those Krylon paints are fine but thats not the right clear coat, that ones a crafts clear coat. Look for the same line (Indoor Outdoor All Purpose Crysal Clear Acrylic) It looks just like the paint cans but it has a clear cap. And dont prime in black unless your painting black over it, or really dark colors. Well, sorry I dont mean "dont" I mean make sure you know how black primer will affect top color because it will. Thats why they make black, grey, and white primers, since they will affect the top coat hue

Inuzukakiba2 · 12-14-08

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Originally Posted by CattleRustler

all those Krylon paints are fine but thats not the right clear coat, that ones a crafts clear coat. Look for the same line (Indoor Outdoor All Purpose Crysal Clear Acrylic) It looks just like the paint cans but it has a clear cap. And dont prime in black unless your painting black over it, or really dark colors. Well, sorry I dont mean "dont" I mean make sure you know how black primer will affect top color because it will. Thats why they make black, grey, and white primers, since they will affect the top coat hue

Will it ruin the color or just make it a darker blue, cause I am going for a darker blue. Thanks for the advice.

Inuzukakiba2 · 12-15-08

I found a guide to case painting that's an excerpt from a case modding book. Its really detailed and has lots of info. I compiled this list of necessary supplies and parts for case modding at this point (no extra fans, fake ice, or cathodes right now)
Correct me on anything.

Sandpaper:
80 grit- ACE- $3 for 3 pieces of 8 x 11
220 grit- ACE $3 for 3 pieces of 8 x 11
360 grit- ACE $3 for 5 pieces of 8 x 11
500 grit wet/dry- have no clue where to buy it
1000 grit wet/dry- have no clue where to buy it
1500 grit wet/dry- have no clue where to buy it

Sanding Block- have
Sander- have
Masking Tape- have
Cotton Towels- have
3M Perfect-IT III Rubbing Compound- have no clue where to buy it
3M Machine Glaze- have no clue where to buy it
Adhesion Promoter Duplicolor- have no clue where to buy it
Krylon Fusion Patriotic Blue x 1- ACE? about $5
Krylon Indoor/ Outdoor True Blue x 2- ACE? about $10
Krylon Indoor/ Outdoor Primer x 2- ACE? about $10
Krylon Clear Coat x 2- ACE? about $10
Nitrite Gloves- Kroger- $4
Wax and Grease Remover- Can I use Goo gone?
Lint Free Paper Towels- ACE- $3 for 1 roll- how many do I need?
Tack Rags- ACE- $1- how many do I need?
Compressed Air- have
Wire for hanging parts- have
Zip Ties for hanging parts- have
Spray bottle for soapy water for wet/dry sanding- have
Rivet Gun and 50 1/8" steel pop rivets- ACE- $22 for rivets and gun

CattleRustler · 12-15-08

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Originally Posted by Inuzukakiba2

Will it ruin the color or just make it a darker blue, cause I am going for a darker blue. Thanks for the advice.

it wont "ruin" it but the top color will be darker when using black primer, than it would when using grey or white primer. If youre going for dark blue I would suggest getting a can of black primer and a can of grey. get a piece of scrap material (ie same maerial as case (steel, alu) or a piece of wood) prime one side, half with grey half with black (3 coats) then paint the two primered halves with the blue you want to use (3-4 coats) and let dry 48 hours. Now look at the painted surface in varying lighting conditions (natural, incandescent, fluorescent, etc) and see what you like best. Doing small tests, especially when it comes to painting (but with all modding too) saves you headaches and total redo's when it comes to the real parts.

Inuzukakiba2 · 12-15-08

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Originally Posted by CattleRustler

it wont "ruin" it but the top color will be darker when using black primer, than it would when using grey or white primer. If youre going for dark blue I would suggest getting a can of black primer and a can of grey. get a piece of scrap material (ie same maerial as case (steel, alu) or a piece of wood) prime one side, half with grey half with black (3 coats) then paint the two primered halves with the blue you want to use (3-4 coats) and let dry 48 hours. Now look at the painted surface in varying lighting conditions (natural, incandescent, fluorescent, etc) and see what you like best. Doing small tests, especially when it comes to painting (but with all modding too) saves you headaches and total redo's when it comes to the real parts.

How many cans of different paints should I buy and what about the stuff I couldn't find?

Updated Supplies List

I found a guide to case painting that's an excerpt from a case modding book. Its really detailed and has lots of info. I compiled this list of necessary supplies and parts for case modding at this point (no extra fans, fake ice, or cathodes right now)
Correct me on anything and point out better deals if you find em.

Sandpaper:
80 grit- ACE- $3 for 3 sheets of 8 x 11
220 grit- ACE $3 for 3 sheets of 8 x 11
360 grit- ACE $3 for 5 sheets of 8 x 11
500 grit wet/dry- Ebay- 4 sheets 8 x 11 ->
1000 grit wet/dry- Ebay- 3 sheets 8 x 11 -> All 10 sheets for $8.30 shipped
1500 grit wet/dry- Ebay- 3 sheets 8 x 11 ->

Sanding Block- have
Sander- have
Masking Tape- have
Cotton Towels- have
3M Perfect-IT III Rubbing Compound- Autobarn.com- $13 shipped
3M Machine Glaze- Autobarn.com- $13 shipped
Adhesion Promoter Duplicolor- Autobarn.com $9 shipped
Sem Gray High Build Primer $11
Sem Pacific Blue C.C. $11
Sem Plastic Prep Aerosol $11
U-POL Products Satin Black $6
U-POL Clear #1 - UV Resistant Clear Coat $14
Nitrite Gloves- Kroger- $4
Wax and Grease Remover- Klean Strip / 1 qt. Prep-All Wax and Grease Remover $7 Autozone
Lint Free Paper Towels- ACE- $3 for 1 roll- how many do I need?
Tack Rags- ACE- $1- how many do I need?
Compressed Air- have
Wire for hanging parts- have
Zip Ties for hanging parts- have
Spray bottle for soapy water for wet/dry sanding- have

Lambent Darkness 7 · 12-17-08

This is going to be interesting, Subbed, you have a very good plan for the case .

I did not unrivet one thing on my case , IMO it was too much work and would have me buying extra tools and the like. Also the rivets wouldnt be painted with the case and would be even more work to paint them separately. The rivets match perfectly and the paint job on my case looks indistinguishable as if I had unriveted it. I was accustomed to painting panels that were still attached to cars so painting a riveted case was no big deal to me and less work.

Since I masked adjacent panels I painted and was able to paint even the hard to reach parts even the top metal panel although is covered by the plastic part that the fan sits in I still painted it.

One of those screws I think are fan screws, Maybe you can get a picture that is slightly farther away with a good shot of the thread of the screw's.

I think if you choose the red theme you should get RED fans and lights antec has the same fans in your case but with red lights to buy. Unless you can make a red white and blue theme for the color scheme of the case akin to a balance of the three colors thoughout the color scheme which you kind of already have loosely planned.

just red a blue would not look right IMO.

Also greese and wax remover for paint would be prefered.

Inuzukakiba2 · 12-17-08

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Originally Posted by Lambent Darkness 7

This is going to be interesting, Subbed, you have a very good plan for the case .

I did not unrivet one thing on my case , IMO it was too much work and would have me buying extra tools and the like. Also the rivets wouldnt be painted with the case and would be even more work to paint them separately. The rivets match perfectly and the paint job on my case looks indistinguishable as if I had unriveted it. I was accustomed to painting panels that were still attached to cars so painting a riveted case was no big deal to me and less work.

Since I masked adjacent panels I painted and was able to paint even the hard to reach parts even the top metal panel although is covered by the plastic part that the fan sits in I still painted it.

One of those screws I think are fan screws, Maybe you can get a picture that is slightly farther away with a good shot of the thread of the screw's.

I think if you choose the red theme you should get RED fans and lights antec has the same fans in your case but with red lights to buy. Unless you can make a red white and blue theme for the color scheme of the case akin to a balance of the three colors thoughout the color scheme which you kind of already have loosely planned.

just red a blue would not look right IMO.

Also greese and wax remover for paint would be prefered.

Sweet thanks. You just saved me $20 on a riveter and rivets. So you painted each panel individually? How long did you let it dry before painting another panel? I'll probably just go with the dark blue theme and use if no one else comments then I'm sure I'll use the instructions cattlerustler gave on painting. Is this a good price to buy at the local autozone? Thanks.

Lambent Darkness 7 · 12-17-08

Yes that is perfect, I bought mine at the auto refinish store for like 12.99 but that was the gallon one. I masked the panels that I didnt want painted,

(This goes for all your primer layers except the base coat and clear coat)
I applied the self-etching primer allowed a 5 min flash time between coats and used two coats. Allowed all the primers I used to dry for 1 ½ hours, sanded the etch primer with 400 grit. I then used high-build primer-surfacer to fill in scratches and prepare for painting. After I applied the build primer and when it was dry (1 1/2 hrs) I sanded it with 400 grit to start with and finished it with 600 grit to make it a smooth shiny finish. I had to pay close attention to detail on the whole sanding part of the paint job, because the better I sanded it, the better it looked.

As you can see I masked the panels I didnt want painted only the back is showing even the inside is masked. You would have to buy the masking paper in the left corner (I got the big roll ) to do this and the tape you see but a wider roll also I used the skinny roll for the bottom pwr supply area and tight places that the wide roll would be too big.

Inuzukakiba2 · 12-20-08

Sandpaper, wax and grease remover, promax xrp, respirator, and gaming mouse pad

purchased and being shipped. Should be getting the holes cut by my friend soon.

Lambent Darkness 7 · 12-21-08

Cool. the journey has begun...

View Poll Results: What color should I paint the case?
Metallic Dark Red	29	55.77%
Metallic Dark Blue	18	34.62%
Matte Dark Red	9	17.31%
Matte Dark Blue	8	15.38%
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