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Cable from inside the case from one of the hdd's to the esata port on the back of the mobo
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Does anyone know if that will work connecting a sata drive to an esata port? It will won't it? I've got a problem: the zotac board only has 2 sata ports and no IDE port. I need 3 ports :P It has an esata though, so i could just run the cable through a small hole in the case/make a passthrough plate.
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Cable from inside the case from one of the hdd's to the esata port on the back of the mobo
Ok, yeah what you want to do will work, but IMO your system could look alot cleaner if you got a pci expansion card like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816132012

either way is good tho


oh and if you arent afraid of soldering you could always entirley remove the motherboard's esata plug and solder in a sata connection of your own.

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Does anyone know if that will work connecting a sata drive to an esata port? It will won't it? I've got a problem: the zotac board only has 2 sata ports and no IDE port. I need 3 ports :P It has an esata though, so i could just run the cable through a small hole in the case/make a passthrough plate.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/thecus...ew-1652-2.html

Short Answer: Yes.

Longer Answer: The Tom's article referenced above is a bit misleading [The concluding comment, "... you cannot plug a SATA drive to an external eSATA port." refers to the mechanical differences in the connectors.]. It does correctly note the electrical differences in the signaling specifications. There is NO difference electrically between a "regular" SATA port and an "eSATA" port --> the difference is in the physical connectors and the degree of shielding in the cables (which is what you would be using externally to connect your drive), and in the tolerances that the port is designed to (but many ... if not most ... SATA 3.0 ports already meet those tolerances). In fact, I suspect the cables that come with the case to connect that front panel eSATA port most likely have a "standard" SATA connection on the other end :-) So not only CAN you connect it to a "standard" SATA connection ... but you most likely MUST do so [Motherboards that have eSATA on them have those on the ATX connector panel in the rear -- not internally; some come with eSATA header boards that install in an add-in slot and use regular SATA connections to plug into an onboard SATA port].

There WILL be a difference in the future ... there's a new eSATA connector coming in the future that includes power for the drive => but that's a different story ... and the connector will be sufficiently different that there's no chance of accidentally connecting it to an old style connection.

eSATA, standardized in 2004, provides a variant of SATA meant for external connectivity. It has revised electrical requirements in addition to incompatible cables and connectors:

* Minimum transmit potential increased: Range is 500–600 mV instead of 400–600 mV.
* Minimum receive potential decreased: Range is 240–600 mV instead of 325–600 mV.
* Identical protocol and logical signaling (link/transport-layer and above), allowing native SATA devices to be deployed in external enclosures with minimal modification
* Maximum cable length of 2 metres (6.6 ft) (USB and FireWire allow longer distances.)
* The external cable connector equates to a shielded version of the connector specified in SATA 1.0a with these basic differences:
o The external connector has no "L" shaped key, and the guide features are vertically offset and reduced in size. This prevents the use of unshielded internal cables in external applications and vice-versa.
o To prevent ESD damage, the design increased insertion depth from 5 mm to 6.6 mm and the contacts are mounted farther back in both the receptacle and plug.
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Thanks guys Can always rely on you ppl to give me a straight answer

I can't use a pci slot because there is only one on the board and i need it for a graphics card/sound card.
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hey guys, i'm back. nothing new has happened really, done a few calculations for the power supply and decided i can just get away with a 150W picoPSU. the jazz trip was AWESOME. Heres me playing bass at the montreux festival:

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Wow, nice How many people were there watching?

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we started with about 80-100 and ended up with about 500 by the time we finished playing :P
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Bad and good news, AC Ryan have decided not to sponsor me, however they have offered me 2 sheets of alu panel in whatever colour and thickness because it took them about 3 weeks to tell me they couldnt sponsor me. So thats a plus! Any input on what thickness? I'm thinking 1/1.5mm
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