Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
     
 
Home Gallery Reviews Blogs Register Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Members List


Go Back   Overclock.net - Overclocking.net > Case Mods & Cases > Case Mods - General Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-28-05   #1 (permalink)
ATI Enthusiast
 
systemshock869's Avatar
 
intel ati

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 386

Rep: 12 systemshock869 Unknown
Unique Rep: 12
FAQs Submitted: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default fan question

I have one 120mm intake fan on front
one 120mm exhaust fan on back
psu fan sucking up, and psu fan exhaust out back
and i am going to ad a 120mm exhaust fan to the top of the case

i was wondering if it would be to my advantage to turn my rear exhaust fan around so it was sucking in right by my processor, and turning the rear psu fan around so it was blowing cool air over the innards, sending the air out right by the upper case exhaust fan.
this would mean that all my fans were intake except for the upper fan. is this a good idea?
__________________
As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration.

System: My System
CPU
P4 660
Motherboard
ASUS P5AD2-E Premium
Sound Card
mobo
Power Supply
enermax 550w
Case
Silverstone TJ04
OS
windows x64
Monitor
LG flatron DVI flat panel
systemshock869 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #2 (permalink)
New rig again :s
 
wowza's Avatar
 
intel nvidia

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Orinda, California
Posts: 3,951

Rep: 493 wowza is a proven memberwowza is a proven memberwowza is a proven memberwowza is a proven memberwowza is a proven member
Unique Rep: 341
FAQs Submitted: 2
Hardware Reviews: 6
Trader Rating: 18
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by systemshock869
I have one 120mm intake fan on front
one 120mm exhaust fan on back
psu fan sucking up, and psu fan exhaust out back
and i am going to ad a 120mm exhaust fan to the top of the case

i was wondering if it would be to my advantage to turn my rear exhaust fan around so it was sucking in right by my processor, and turning the rear psu fan around so it was blowing cool air over the innards, sending the air out right by the upper case exhaust fan.
this would mean that all my fans were intake except for the upper fan. is this a good idea?
I would flip the exaust fan on the back to it blows air into your processor, and then use the fan on the top as your exaust fan. But i wouldnt change the PSU fan. You want to use the psu fan as an exaust fan because the hottest air in your case usually comes from your PSU. Dont blow that air into your case.
__________________
Fold For Team 37726!! Get Started Here
Upgrades---> T7200 Core 2 Duo
Guide---> What Core 2 Duo Motherboard is right for me?
Projects---> Waterchiller Build
Rig 2---> P4 640 @ 4GHz, Asus P5P800-SE, 512MB crap, Sunbeam NUUO 550w
My Old Rig --->2.4AE @ 4.15GHz , semi Stable, yes 1.75GHz OC ...

System: Dude, I got a Dell
CPU
T2500 Core Duo
Motherboard
Dell Laptop
Memory
2x1GB G.Skill DDR2-800
Graphics Card
Quadro 1500m flashed--> 7900GTX
Hard Drive
200GB SATA 5400RPM
Sound Card
Audigy 2 Onboard
Power Supply
9 Cell Battery
Case
E1705 Frame
OS
XP Home SP2
Monitor
17" LCD (1920x1200) + 20.1" Samsung Widescreen
wowza is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #3 (permalink)
You want Krunk smash?
 
Krunk_Kracker's Avatar
 
intel nvidia

Join Date: May 2005
Location: 28° 2' N, 81° 57' W
Posts: 12,452
Blog Entries: 6

FAQs Submitted: 4
Folding Team Rank: 336
Trader Rating: 24
Default

Also, it's always good to have the same or close to the same CFM coming in and going out of the case. Meaning, same number of fans in and out Hope I helped ya.
__________________

Add me on XBL: Krunk Kracker1

System: Pure Pwnage (not so much)
CPU
e6400@3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5N-D
Memory
1gx4 SuperTalent T800UX2GC4 (DDR2-800/3-3-3-4)
Graphics Card
eVGA 8800GTS 320mb
Hard Drive
WD80x2 (RAID0) + SeaGate 120
Sound Card
Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
OCZ GameXstream 850w
Case
XASER III
CPU cooling
Scythe Infinity
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
Monitor
Samsung 19"
Krunk_Kracker is offline I fold for Overclock.net Overclocked Account Krunk_Kracker's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #4 (permalink)
Powder Coat Your Case
 
CyberDruid's Avatar
 
intel ati

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Blue Ridge Mts., Virginia
Posts: 20,793
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: 2370 CyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legend
Unique Rep: 1081
FAQs Submitted: 26
Hardware Reviews: 12
Trader Rating: 220
Default

Nope--I think that will do 2 bad things--1)it will take the hotair from your PSU (which is a major heater) and pummel your cpu/mobo with it 2) it will create a static volume in the case because of the front and rear fans pushing at each opther so to speak--the only outlet would be the top--which, depending on it's location, might not have a clear draw on the air below--fans that push/pull need to be seperated as far as possible from each other or the air doesn't stayin the case long enough to pick up the heat.

It used to be that PSU all blew in--but that was before the big watts came along--extra watts mean extra heat--and that is why most PSUs blow out now adays.

Since that is already one exhaust that pretty much forces you to use the rear fan as an exhaust to prevent cycling air from one fan to another without going through the case.

Ditto on the top--it really should be an exhaust (heat rises) and most blowholes do little except keep hot air from collecting at the top of the case.

The Front fan really needs to be an intake.

If you want some intake air I would go with a side panel fan right over the CPU HS fan area to introduce outside air to the CPU--but if possible duct this intake so that it is jammed into the CPU HS and not cycled by the nearby PSU and exhaust fans...

System: Mistress Quickly
CPU
X3320 (ES) @ 3ghz
Motherboard
GA-X38-DQ6
Memory
4GB G Skill F2 DDR2 1000
Graphics Card
HD 3870X2
Hard Drive
RaptorX/2 x 750GB/Areca1210 4 x 750GB RAID5
Power Supply
PC Power & Cooling 750 Quad Silencer
Case
Soldam WiNdy Black Knight XR-1 NRS
CPU cooling
Enzotech X w/ San Ace 1011 on Rheostat
OS
Vista Ultimate 64
Monitor
Samsung 5271 52" LCD
4 Million+ Folding at Home points Overclock.net Mod of the Month
CyberDruid is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #5 (permalink)
nVidia Enthusiast
 
--Filip--'s Avatar
 
intel nvidia

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: S. Central PA
Posts: 1,086

Rep: 202 --Filip-- is acknowledged by many--Filip-- is acknowledged by many--Filip-- is acknowledged by many
Unique Rep: 145
FAQs Submitted: 17
Hardware Reviews: 6
Trader Rating: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by systemshock869
I have one 120mm intake fan on front
one 120mm exhaust fan on back
psu fan sucking up, and psu fan exhaust out back
and i am going to ad a 120mm exhaust fan to the top of the case

i was wondering if it would be to my advantage to turn my rear exhaust fan around so it was sucking in right by my processor, and turning the rear psu fan around so it was blowing cool air over the innards, sending the air out right by the upper case exhaust fan.
this would mean that all my fans were intake except for the upper fan. is this a good idea?
Nice sig ATWA is a cool song

Uhh I think that would be a bad idea, for one your rear PSU fan if its blowing in is going to blow hot air in from the PSU. I think with just a top exhaust you're not going to get the hot air out of your case fast enough.
__________________
Ex-PC overclocker.
I'm from the AMD64/P4 days...
Laptop dead...custom rig reborn

System: Zirkus II
CPU
3.2 GHz Socket 478 P4
Motherboard
MSI 945GC Chipset
Memory
4GB Geil DDR667
Graphics Card
nVidia 8600 GTS 256MB
Hard Drive
500GB + 160GB SATAI
Sound Card
Soundblaster Live
Power Supply
Stock Aspire
Case
Aspire XQPack2
OS
WinXP Pro SP1A
Monitor
Acer 24" Widescreen
--Filip-- is offline --Filip--'s Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #6 (permalink)
You want Krunk smash?
 
Krunk_Kracker's Avatar
 
intel nvidia

Join Date: May 2005
Location: 28° 2' N, 81° 57' W
Posts: 12,452
Blog Entries: 6

FAQs Submitted: 4
Folding Team Rank: 336
Trader Rating: 24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberDruid
Nope--I think that will do 2 bad things--1)it will take the hotair from your PSU (which is a major heater) and pummel your cpu/mobo with it 2) it will create a static volume in the case because of the front and rear fans pushing at each opther so to speak--the only outlet would be the top--which, depending on it's location, might not have a clear draw on the air below--fans that push/pull need to be seperated as far as possible from each other or the air doesn't stayin the case long enough to pick up the heat.

It used to be that PSU all blew in--but that was before the big watts came along--extra watts mean extra heat--and that is why most PSUs blow out now adays.

Since that is already one exhaust that pretty much forces you to use the rear fan as an exhaust to prevent cycling air from one fan to another without going through the case.

Ditto on the top--it really should be an exhaust (heat rises) and most blowholes do little except keep hot air from collecting at the top of the case.

The Front fan really needs to be an intake.

If you want some intake air I would go with a side panel fan right over the CPU HS fan area to introduce outside air to the CPU--but if possible duct this intake so that it is jammed into the CPU HS and not cycled by the nearby PSU and exhaust fans...
No bedtime for you yet Cyber

I have a duct from a HP you can have if you need it. I have no need for it at all.
__________________

Add me on XBL: Krunk Kracker1

System: Pure Pwnage (not so much)
CPU
e6400@3.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5N-D
Memory
1gx4 SuperTalent T800UX2GC4 (DDR2-800/3-3-3-4)
Graphics Card
eVGA 8800GTS 320mb
Hard Drive
WD80x2 (RAID0) + SeaGate 120
Sound Card
Barracuda AC-1
Power Supply
OCZ GameXstream 850w
Case
XASER III
CPU cooling
Scythe Infinity
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
Monitor
Samsung 19"
Krunk_Kracker is offline I fold for Overclock.net Overclocked Account Krunk_Kracker's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #7 (permalink)
Powder Coat Your Case
 
CyberDruid's Avatar
 
intel ati

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Blue Ridge Mts., Virginia
Posts: 20,793
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: 2370 CyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legendCyberDruid is a legend
Unique Rep: 1081
FAQs Submitted: 26
Hardware Reviews: 12
Trader Rating: 220
Default

Damn computer robs me of sleep every night--I'm really signing off now...maybe

http://www.overclock.net/rig_showcas...=view&id=10018

Link to a picture of side ducting

System: Mistress Quickly
CPU
X3320 (ES) @ 3ghz
Motherboard
GA-X38-DQ6
Memory
4GB G Skill F2 DDR2 1000
Graphics Card
HD 3870X2
Hard Drive
RaptorX/2 x 750GB/Areca1210 4 x 750GB RAID5
Power Supply
PC Power & Cooling 750 Quad Silencer
Case
Soldam WiNdy Black Knight XR-1 NRS
CPU cooling
Enzotech X w/ San Ace 1011 on Rheostat
OS
Vista Ultimate 64
Monitor
Samsung 5271 52" LCD
4 Million+ Folding at Home points Overclock.net Mod of the Month
CyberDruid is offline Overclocked Account   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05   #8 (permalink)
Overclocker
 
xie67's Avatar
 
amd nvidia

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: bRISBane
Posts: 2,870

Rep: 309 xie67 is a proven memberxie67 is a proven memberxie67 is a proven memberxie67 is a proven member
Unique Rep: 205
FAQs Submitted: 2
Trader Rating: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by systemshock869
I have one 120mm intake fan on front
one 120mm exhaust fan on back
psu fan sucking up, and psu fan exhaust out back
and i am going to ad a 120mm exhaust fan to the top of the case

i was wondering if it would be to my advantage to turn my rear exhaust fan around so it was sucking in right by my processor, and turning the rear psu fan around so it was blowing cool air over the innards, sending the air out right by the upper case exhaust fan.
this would mean that all my fans were intake except for the upper fan. is this a good idea?
No not a good idea.

You want the rear fan as an exuaust.
The top fan as an exhaust is good.

Maybe add another side fan ( intake )

I always like to have a bit more air entering the case than leaving.
I find the addition of a blowhole say 80mm with a chrome grille covering on the side of the case low down to the rear in front of the PCI slots, is always a good setup.
This acts as a balance for the air in the case which addresses any pressure differences. Which in turn aids the airflow through the case.

Obviously placement and number of fans and size etc. depends on your particular case application.

cheers
__________________
System: My System
CPU
3700+Sandiego KACAE
Motherboard
DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-D
Memory
2x512Mb TCCD
Graphics Card
2 x eVGA6600GT 256Mb
Hard Drive
WD 80Gb SATAII
Sound Card
Audigy
Power Supply
Enermax Noisetaker 485W
Case
XG Quantum - modified
OS
XP Puss Pro
xie67 is offline xie67's Gallery   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-05   #9 (permalink)
ATI Enthusiast
 
systemshock869's Avatar
 
intel ati

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 386

Rep: 12 systemshock869 Unknown
Unique Rep: 12
FAQs Submitted: 1
Trader Rating: 0
Default

hey thanks guys

reps for all

here and here are pics of my case (I have the one with the window.)

I was thinking an 80mm intake in the little area that's cut out of the window would look good. It has a tall, skinny vent on the back by the PCI cards, and I thought it would be cool to put 2x 40mm intake fans on that vent.

thanks again
__________________
As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration.

System: My System
CPU
P4 660
Motherboard
ASUS P5AD2-E Premium
Sound Card
mobo
Power Supply
enermax 550w
Case
Silverstone TJ04
OS
windows x64
Monitor
LG flatron DVI flat panel
systemshock869 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:44 PM.


Overclock.net is a Carbon Neutral Site Creative Commons License

Terms of Service / Forum Rules | Privacy Policy | DMCA Info | Advertising | Become an Official Vendor
Copyright © 2010 Shogun Interactive Development. Most rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.19164 seconds with 8 queries