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PCCstudent · 10-12-09

While waiting for Dreaweaver to get here I decided I would check out a few books on writing HTML code. Its OK if you follow the instructions your pages display just as they should,but I have a little problem.

I am using Apache and XP, I can view my indexpage and I can view all pages I created and put into the htdocs folder but I cant move from page to page within the web site,must be something I am overlooking but I don't see any mention of how to enable this function,any help? I am working on it.

dharmaBum · 10-12-09

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Doesn't work?

hybrid-kernel · 10-12-09

fyi, you don't need a server just to view local html files.

are you using relative links?

you don't need books for html, its too simple. online guides are more than enough

PCCstudent · 10-12-09

I will insert the supplied code and see how it goes. As of now this code is not present in any form in any place.

Don't know how to apply the"not needing server" info but will look at what my text mentions about "realitive links" Thanks to all this is just for fun,not stressing at all

OK all is well I just needed to read a little further <a href=></a> is the building block

hybrid-kernel · 10-12-09

you don't need a server, as in, in your browser just do file > open file and open your html document. since everything is clientside, you don't need a server to 'serve' the files locally.

by relative I mean, you can have a link that leads to foo.html, meaning that the file is in the same directory as the one you are linking from. if you link to http://example.com/foo.html, it doesn't matter where you are linking from, as its the absolute path. the disadvantage is that if you change domains, you will have to change example.com in all your files.

PCCstudent · 10-12-09

OK your instructions are in my "try it like this" file. I did get two great (well I think they are great) HTML books from the library. Path work is challenging for me but I don't give up but it s**** to have to work so hard.

Setting up my Untangle box has me weak kneeded, but its something else I want to master.

I really want to hit modem and router setup hard next semester,kind of interesting. Some have suggested I "map" out my network for better understanding, I take it this is common (mine is so small,but it is just for educational purposes).

hybrid-kernel · 10-12-09

From the first post I assumed you bought books, which would have been a waste of money. Getting from the library is ok though.

By map I assume you means something like

Code:

{Internet}----(Modem)----(Wireless Router)~~~~~[Laptop 1]
                          |  |  |  ~  ~  ~
          [Basement Server]  |  |  ~  ~  [Main Desktop]
                             |  |  ~  ~
           [Secondary Desktop]  |  ~  [Phone]
                                |  ~
                       [Laptop 2]  [Netbook]

My lan setup ^ (--- means wired, ~~~ means wireless)

EmerilLIVE · 10-12-09

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Originally Posted by PCCstudent

While waiting for Dreaweaver to get here I decided I would check out a few books on writing HTML code. Its OK if you follow the instructions your pages display just as they should,but I have a little problem.

I am using Apache and XP, I can view my indexpage and I can view all pages I created and put into the htdocs folder but I cant move from page to page within the web site,must be something I am overlooking but I don't see any mention of how to enable this function,any help? I am working on it.

Honestly if you are going to be doing web development seriously Dreamweaver is unnecessary IMO. You need to learn to write the code and write it correctly. I suggest you download notepad++, it will highlight the syntax of HTML, XHTML, CSS, PHP, ect.

When it comes to learning to write the code books are not necessary as information is readily available on the web. If you want to go with a book I recommend Head First HTML with XHTML & CSS.

I recommend you go to the world wide web consortium's website, they set the standards for www, where many tutorials are available. You should always test your code with the W3C's validators to ensure it's up to snuff. W3 Schools also has some good tutorials and references.

Once you've got the gist of HTML, XHTML, and CSS you should move on to tackling Javascript, which has nothing to do with Java. Javascript is Client-side programming which means it is executed on the computer the web page is being viewed on. The purpose of programming as opposed to HTML is to create dynamic, interactive content which is crucial to creating pages which are more than just informative.

Beyond Javascript is PHP, ASP.net, Ruby on Rails, and several other options for Server-side programming, which means it is executed on the web server the web page is served from. Server-side programming as opposed to Client-side programming is used for several reasons, such as security. Since the code of Server-side programming is never exposed to the client, only the result of it's execution, it cannot be altered by the client or changed in-route to the client. You should always consider which is more efficient for a particular task in deciding whether to program it Client-side or Server-side.

Server side programming languages can interact with databases such as Microsoft SQL, Oracle, and MySQL, databases can be used to greatly improve the dynamic and interactive content of your web pages. They can maintain records of a user such as their preferences and prior activities. They can maintain inventory numbers and pricing data for an e-commerce site. The possibilities are practically endless.

I hope my post is helpful to you and I hope it didn't ramble on too long. You may choose to use Dreamweaver in the end but I sincerely hope that you will take the time to learn some of the underlying code so that you can better understand "how" it works. As with any programming practice is the key, you will make mistakes and you will be better for them. Good Luck!

PCCstudent · 10-12-09

No not at all rambling in fact every bit of information from both Emril and Hybrid is like gold when I comes to piecing together just what is going on today with web design. I find it necessary to pick a section of the IT industry and concentrate on it, and I even like web design.

I just don't think I have it in me to be a system administrator (even if I could rise to that level) I am just not the corporate type. Now web design, I could get into that. I conclude lots of competition though?

Hybrid, on your network map where would a Untangle box be placed? I imagine the very first thing.

hybrid-kernel · 10-12-09

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Server side programming languages can interact with databases such as Microsoft SQL, Oracle, and MySQL, databases can be used to greatly improve the dynamic and interactive content of your web pages

technically client side can too, with the help of server side (ie, ajax).

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Now web design, I could get into that.

If you are going into web design, dreamweaver (as stated above) is simply not an option. generated code is usually terribly inefficient, cumbersome, ugly and generally bad. I believe that the way "professionals" do it these days is do a design in photoshop, then create the html/css for it manually. at least that's how I always do it.

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Hybrid, on your network map where would a Untangle box be placed? I imagine the very first thing.

Based on what I understood from wiki, it would go in place of the router.

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