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Old 06-16-09   #5471 (permalink)
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SSD's really aren't about sequential reads - they simply rape hard drives at access times. >100 times quicker in most cases.
Exactly: imagine using your memory sticks as your "hard drive". Or, just imagine using a flash drive instead of a HDD.
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but theres some from ocz that arn't that much faster than the WD Raper hdd (pun intended)

put a few of these in Raid O then get the equiv in back up and one for storage and let the good times spin but I was also reading that the ssd's lose charge in the cels the more often you write and read hmmm I wonder what the average shelf life is for these drives

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From what I've been reading here on OCN, SSDs in general are much, much faster. It's as if everything is loading from memory, including Windows. I saw one person mention a 15-second boot time on an SSD. It takes almost 15 seconds just for my system to do its POST!
But seriously is it all about booting up? I'm talking about like real user performance. Is it worth paying 10x more for "maybe" 3x increase in performance? I agree SSD's are the future, but is that future now? I think NOT! In two years as you say, maybe...

Seriously HDD in my desktop vs SSD in my netbook

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If i could i would get that SSD out of the netbook into my desktop, but warranty is still valid Netbook does have a much slower CPU, but still...
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Exactly: imagine using your memory sticks as your "hard drive". Or, just imagine using a flash drive instead of a HDD.
I can. RAMdisk ~6GB/s. Beat that velociraptor...

edit: lol using a flash drive as a hard drive... mmm yeah 5mb/s appeals to me more than 100mb/s? >_>

flash drives = phalesauce
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LOL i guess my SSD is crap-o...
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Is it a good idea to cut out some of the HDD cages? Increase airflow.
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But seriously is it all about booting up? I'm talking about like real user performance. Is it worth paying 10x more for "maybe" 3x increase in performance? I agree SSD's are the future, but is that future now? I think NOT! In two years as you say, maybe...

Seriously HDD in my desktop vs SSD in my netbook

HDD


SSD


If i could i would get that SSD out of the netbook into my desktop, but warranty is still valid Netbook does have a much slower CPU, but still...


Look don't get me wrong I'm in the camp of when it gets cheaper and more Gb for your buck I'll go that route but now with the prices so high not a chance .
to me it's like an unstopable force vs an imovable object not good

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but theres some from ocz that arn't that much faster than the WD Raper hdd (pun intended)

put a few of these in Raid O then get the equiv in back up and one for storage and let the good times spin but I was also reading that the ssd's lose charge in the cels the more often you write and read hmmm I wonder what the average shelf life is for these drives
And this is why I am going to wait a while. I want to wait until the technology has "matured" a bit more, as smash_mouth01 said.
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But seriously is it all about booting up? I'm talking about like real user performance. Is it worth paying 10x more for "maybe" 3x increase in performance? I agree SSD's are the future, but is that future now? I think NOT! In two years as you say, maybe...

(the screenshots were here, but I removed them to save space)

If i could i would get that SSD out of the netbook into my desktop, but warranty is still valid Netbook does have a much slower CPU, but still...
Based on these results, it looks like that is one really crappy SSD. Whoa.
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I can. RAMdisk ~6GB/s. Beat that velociraptor...

edit: lol using a flash drive as a hard drive... mmm yeah 5mb/s appeals to me more than 100mb/s? >_>

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But you know what I meant. Isn't that what counts in a conversation?
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LOL i guess my SSD is crap-o...
Yeah. But consider where it's coming from. Now if you bought a good "aftermarket" one, then you'd see much better performance.
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Look don't get me wrong I'm in the camp of when it gets cheaper and more Gb for your buck I'll go that route but now with the prices so high not a chance .
to me it's like an unstopable force vs an imovable object not good
Same opinion here...

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Now if you bought a good "aftermarket" one, then you'd see much better performance.
Yes but at what price/capacity ratio?
For me SSD's are still far away... i can't afford a Raptor/VelociRaptor let alone SSD's... For gods sake i have 1x500gb SATAII HDD , at this time i'd rather spend $500 on a new CPU/Mobo/RAM combo (read i5/i7) than buy an SSD... but i guess most of us agree on that!

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Is it a good idea to cut out some of the HDD cages? Increase airflow.
Yes it will give you improved airflow, especially if you have a fanless GPU, and a high CFM fan in front...
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Yes but at what price/capacity ratio?
Now that's a really good point!
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For me SSD's are still far away... i can't afford a Raptor/VelociRaptor let alone SSD's... For gods sake i have 1x500gb SATAII HDD , at this time i'd rather spend $500 on a new CPU/Mobo/RAM combo (read i5/i7) than buy an SSD... but i guess most of us agree on that!
Amen to that, man! I'm just hoping that my plan to wait 1-2 years works out. If not, then I guess I'll wait longer. hehe After all, I want to be able to get a good 250GB Single-Level Cell SSD for less than $200 (because my VelociRaptor was $179.99 shipped).
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Yes it will give you improved airflow, especially if you have a fanless GPU, and a high CFM fan in front...
Yep. Just ask YaGit about it. He knows.
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