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Old 01-25-09   #1 (permalink)
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Default Antec 1200 Build & Questions

As the title says, I would like some help in designing the layout inside my new Antec 1200. I am coming from a Thermaltake Armor, so I am used to a lot of space (see my Armor build log here).

Things I intend to do:
  • Sleeve Antec TriCool cables (same as I did for my Armor build)
  • Install SATA DVD burner from my Armor build
  • Install fan controller from my Armor build (for CPU fan, case door fan, and an additional internal fan I'll be adding to the supplied HDD cage clip)
  • Use this case for a new Core i7 or Phenom II build (using the graphics card, sound card, hard drives, and PSU from my current rig)

Even if I use my Silverstone CFP51-B HDD cage, I will still have an extra bay unused and I don't like things going to waste, so I need some ideas!

Here are some options I am considering:
  • Thermaltake iBox (Link)
  • Some sort of VFD that will perform the same as my G15 LCD screen (programmable) so that I can get a new keyboard (any links to something that would perform this task would be greatly appreciated!)

What do you think? Any other ideas?

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4x36GB WD Raptors in RAID-0, 750GB WD AAKS
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X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
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Ultra X3 1000W
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TRUE Black (lapped) w/ 2 Panaflo U1Cs
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I had a little drive bay box on my old case and won't ever have one again. If you keep nuts and bolts in it they will rattle and slide around every time you move your rig. I would just say no to it personally. What is nice is a cool digital readout fan controller, with knobs. I like this one -Scythe "KAZE MASTER ACE ". cuz it's not too flashy, but looks good. NZXT has a dual drive bay controller if you're trying to take up some space, but no knobs = slower to adjust.
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I had a little drive bay box on my old case and won't ever have one again. If you keep nuts and bolts in it they will rattle and slide around every time you move your rig. I would just say no to it personally. What is nice is a cool digital readout fan controller, with knobs. I like this one -Scythe "KAZE MASTER ACE ". cuz it's not too flashy, but looks good. NZXT has a dual drive bay controller if you're trying to take up some space, but no knobs = slower to adjust.
I appreciate the suggestions! Unfortunately, I will not trust Scythe ever again to control my fans after the Kama Meter turned out to be crap. I also do not feel the need to see temperatures from external probes as they are pretty useless unless properly embedded in the device (which is why I want a VFD or LCD display to show the information my G15 does now). The fan controller I have now is what I will stick with; simple, elegant, and powerful. Do you know of any LCDs or VFDs that meet my requirements?

I won't be moving the case around much so I'm not worried about loose screws. I really have no use for a tool box except for a cloth to wipe dust, so it really isn't a necessity for me anyway, but it is a cheap option to fill a slot that doesn't look horrible.

System: BladeRunner v2.0
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Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.405 (210x21) w/o HT
Motherboard
ASUS P6T
Memory
3x2GiB OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 @ 1678 9-9-9-27-1T
Graphics Card
VisionTek HD 4870X2 @ 792/1950
Hard Drive
4x36GB WD Raptors in RAID-0, 750GB WD AAKS
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
Power Supply
Ultra X3 1000W
Case
Antec 1200
CPU cooling
TRUE Black (lapped) w/ 2 Panaflo U1Cs
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
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Oh, I see now that you're putting the fan controller from your old rig in. I like fan controllers with knobs and a lot of the new ones are all digital. I'm glad you said something about the Scythe because I was thinking about getting it. There is actually a Lian Li fan controller I like as well that is really basic, but with some LED's. I know they make great cases, but don't know about this.
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Oh, I see now that you're putting the fan controller from your old rig in. I like fan controllers with knobs and a lot of the new ones are all digital. I'm glad you said something about the Scythe because I was thinking about getting it. There is actually a Lian Li fan controller I like as well that is really basic, but with some LED's. I know they make great cases, but don't know about this.
It says each channels supports 20W so purchasing that should be good. As for my comment on Scythe, I could have just gotten a bad product, but everything that could have went wrong short of starting a fire did and it almost cost me my RAID array so I would at least avoid that model.

System: BladeRunner v2.0
CPU
Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.405 (210x21) w/o HT
Motherboard
ASUS P6T
Memory
3x2GiB OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 @ 1678 9-9-9-27-1T
Graphics Card
VisionTek HD 4870X2 @ 792/1950
Hard Drive
4x36GB WD Raptors in RAID-0, 750GB WD AAKS
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
Power Supply
Ultra X3 1000W
Case
Antec 1200
CPU cooling
TRUE Black (lapped) w/ 2 Panaflo U1Cs
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
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BenQ V2400W 24" Monitor
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Alrighty, so I took apart the Antec 1200 last night to see how feasible cable sleeving the fans would be (I think it's crap that Antec didn't bother to do this themselves). Unfortunately, everthing is powered by a Molex connector and fitting sleeving and heat shrink tubing over those is all but impossible, so I am going to need a good guide on how to dismantle and reassemble Molex connectors, as well as a link to the best tools for the job (I don't want to screw it up). Suggestions?

System: BladeRunner v2.0
CPU
Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.405 (210x21) w/o HT
Motherboard
ASUS P6T
Memory
3x2GiB OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 @ 1678 9-9-9-27-1T
Graphics Card
VisionTek HD 4870X2 @ 792/1950
Hard Drive
4x36GB WD Raptors in RAID-0, 750GB WD AAKS
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
Power Supply
Ultra X3 1000W
Case
Antec 1200
CPU cooling
TRUE Black (lapped) w/ 2 Panaflo U1Cs
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
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Alrighty, so I took apart the Antec 1200 last night to see how feasible cable sleeving the fans would be (I think it's crap that Antec didn't bother to do this themselves). Unfortunately, everthing is powered by a Molex connector and fitting sleeving and heat shrink tubing over those is all but impossible, so I am going to need a good guide on how to dismantle and reassemble Molex connectors, as well as a link to the best tools for the job (I don't want to screw it up). Suggestions?
What you need is a pin extractor, look on FrozenCPU.com and PerformancePCs.com. They should have one for like $5. You can pull the pins out of the molex and then slide the heatshrink over it.

Or you can do like i did and cut a hole in the side of the HDD cage and route all your cables through it, and you won't have to worry about shrinkin the wires.
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Has anybody ever though of using blood instead of water in a setup? Just came to mind, what are the thermal conductivities of blood?

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What you need is a pin extractor, look on FrozenCPU.com and PerformancePCs.com. They should have one for like $5. You can pull the pins out of the molex and then slide the heatshrink over it.

Or you can do like i did and cut a hole in the side of the HDD cage and route all your cables through it, and you won't have to worry about shrinkin the wires.
I just ordered FrozenCPU's "universal" remover, but I still have yet to find a guide regarding the dismantling of a MolexDuo/Pass-through connector, as those have the cables coming out the side. I don't have power tools to cut the hole in the drive cage nor would I trust myself to make said modifications.

System: BladeRunner v2.0
CPU
Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.405 (210x21) w/o HT
Motherboard
ASUS P6T
Memory
3x2GiB OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 @ 1678 9-9-9-27-1T
Graphics Card
VisionTek HD 4870X2 @ 792/1950
Hard Drive
4x36GB WD Raptors in RAID-0, 750GB WD AAKS
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
Power Supply
Ultra X3 1000W
Case
Antec 1200
CPU cooling
TRUE Black (lapped) w/ 2 Panaflo U1Cs
GPU cooling
Stock
OS
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Monitor
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This is really frustrating! I simply cannot find a single guide the has a molex pass-through plug example. They are relatively common, so how is this possible? Am I just blind?

System: BladeRunner v2.0
CPU
Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.405 (210x21) w/o HT
Motherboard
ASUS P6T
Memory
3x2GiB OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 @ 1678 9-9-9-27-1T
Graphics Card
VisionTek HD 4870X2 @ 792/1950
Hard Drive
4x36GB WD Raptors in RAID-0, 750GB WD AAKS
Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
Power Supply
Ultra X3 1000W
Case
Antec 1200
CPU cooling
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This is really frustrating! I simply cannot find a single guide the has a molex pass-through plug example. They are relatively common, so how is this possible? Am I just blind?
Oh yeah i didn't think about that, i'm not quite sure how you would go about doing those kind. It may do it basically the same way IDK, i guess you'll find out when you get the extractor.
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Has anybody ever though of using blood instead of water in a setup? Just came to mind, what are the thermal conductivities of blood?

System: Antec 302
CPU
P4 @ 2.8ghz
Motherboard
GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
2x2GB G.Skill 800mhz
Graphics Card
XFX 7600gt
Hard Drive
640GB AALS
Power Supply
Ultra X3 600w Modular
Case
Antec 302 **Case Mod In progress**
CPU cooling
Stock w/ OCZ Freeze
GPU cooling
Stock @ 100%
OS
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