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So I one day in the future plan to have a liquid cooled system but do not want to risk frying in case of leakage. What have you guys found to be the most thermally efficient while least conductive fluid to put in your system? excluding distilled pure watter.
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Sorry but it is distilled pure water + a biocide, just make sure to clamp all of your connections. It is non-conductive, if you don't believe me I'll find a video I remember.
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here is the video.
It is Feser coolant (a highly regarded uv reactive coolant) compared to water.
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distilled water, Feser F1

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until it gets contaminants in the mix and then it turns conductive.

you could use deionized water but it's highly corrosive to metals
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So I one day in the future plan to have a liquid cooled system but do not want to risk frying in case of leakage. What have you guys found to be the most thermally efficient while least conductive fluid to put in your system? excluding distilled pure watter.
Feser 1 is good as is Primochill if you're on a budget.

Pure Distilled + PT Nuke + Tiny bit of Glycerin (to break surface tension and lubricate pump)

I've also used Pure distilled and non-diluted automotive anti-freeze in a 10:1 ratio. The anti-freeze already has anti-corrosive and anti-bio properties. Add a little Glycerin (Water Wetter if you want a name brand) and your good to go.

A real silver dollar or other chunk of real silver will also act as a biocide. You can keep in in your reservior.

Words of caution:

Coolants that are advertised as "Non-Conductive" are probably non-conductive in ideal conditions (in their test lab where there's no contaminates). As soon as the 'non-conductive' coolant becomes contaminated (dust, dirt, etc.) it can (and most likely will) become conductive.

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You could try 3M's Fluorinert: http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...er/output_html

It is a non-electrically conductive liquid with good thermal properities. However,it does cost quite a bit.... $2000 for 1L but you can find deals for it. Supposedly, you can get a gallon of it for $200.
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yeah, distilled water will get conductive over time.

I had feser one leak on my motherboard one time (leak was there for a good day or more) and nothing bad happened. I'd get feser one or distilled water + silver coil.

It really is hard for anything to leak though as long as you have a zip tie/clamp around tubing.

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Coolants that are advertised as "Non-Conductive" are probably non-conductive in ideal conditions (in their test lab where there's no contaminates). As soon as the 'non-conductive' coolant becomes contaminated (dust, dirt, etc.) it can (and most likely will) become conductive.
Exactly wgat I wish to avoid. Now the automotive coolant.. was it ethylene glycol or the otherone? I did consider ethylene glycol but have a few doubts as to how long it can be subjected to heat as it has a flash point of 110 c http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol
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Exactly wgat I wish to avoid. Now the automotive coolant.. was it ethylene glycol or the otherone? I did consider ethylene glycol but have a few doubts as to how long it can be subjected to heat as it has a flash point of 110 c http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol
Ethylene glycol or Polyethylene glycol by themselves aren't automotive coolant. Water plus the glycol makes anti-freeze. The water is the real coolant. In PC watercooling, you mix it with water for a 5-10% concentration to act as an ionic buffer and anti-growth.


Again..... With a normal water cooling setup, you want Fluorinert. You can use oil as it is not electrically conductive. However, you will need an oil pump and radiator.
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Look into Fluid XP+ Nano Fluid..dam expensive..but cheaper than that 3m Fluorinert.

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