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I was thinking the same exact thing. I have some too.

Lemme see if I'm understanding this right.

The purpose of a bong cooler, is to have air rapidly evaporate, which causes a transformation of heat energy. So the water evaporates partially, and the cooler, unevaporated water particles drip down into the reservoir.

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Indeed. The more surface area and exposure time the water has to the most cold air it can get will get the most performance.

Surface area is best obtained using a material for the water to soak into.
Exposure time is best obtianed using a material that will soak up lots of water for a long time (relatively).
Cold air is best achieved with airflow. Blow in, Suck out
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with what you are saying I can't imagine you would have any kind of decent flowrate for your water, keep in mind this is all going to be pumped through your PC, slow dripping may be better for cooling, but whats going to happen when your res gets low waiting for the water to drip down?
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with what you are saying I can't imagine you would have any kind of decent flowrate for your water, keep in mind this is all going to be pumped through your PC, slow dripping may be better for cooling, but whats going to happen when your res gets low waiting for the water to drip down?
It does not work that way. The flow rate remains the same. The wick material becomes saturated and as much water flows out as flows in. You are probably going to ask, how the heck do you 'know' this? Because I have built and used one of these things Have a nice day.
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its a fine balance best results are from a simulated raine cause u only evap small layer of the droplet cooling it , if u do a fine mist ur going to evap around 40% of the water and thier will be no mass comeing back to the rez to maintaine a a low temp ur rez will be about room temp and thats with just the bong runing once u put heat in the system it will all go down hill
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its a fine balance best results are from a simulated raine cause u only evap small layer of the droplet cooling it , if u do a fine mist ur going to evap around 40% of the water and thier will be no mass comeing back to the rez to maintaine a a low temp ur rez will be about room temp and thats with just the bong runing once u put heat in the system it will all go down hill
And what if you created a secondary reservoir with a flow-back valve?

The evaporated water could be dispersed into the second reservoir, and when it loses enough energy it'll condense and collect at the bottom. A passive radiator could be placed below it, and when your main reservoir becomes near empty, simply open the flowback valve to fill it back up. It'd have to cool all over again, but hey, it would if it evaporates anyway.

This idea's copyrighted and if I find anyone using it for personal use I'll smash it to pieces and sue them .
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And what if you created a secondary reservoir with a flow-back valve?

The evaporated water could be dispersed into the second reservoir, and when it loses enough energy it'll condense and collect at the bottom. A passive radiator could be placed below it, and when your main reservoir becomes near empty, simply open the flowback valve to fill it back up. It'd have to cool all over again, but hey, it would if it evaporates anyway.

This idea's copyrighted and if I find anyone using it for personal use I'll smash it to pieces and sue them .
what's a flow-back valve?
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what's a flow-back valve?
... I don't know what else to call it.



There might also be a stage for the evaporated water / air to pass through. If the second res were completely sealed, it wouldn't do much good. It wouldn't be 100% efficient at retaining water in the system, but it'd be better.

Oh yeah. And all this is with a misting showerhead. Alright!
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lol ur idea has been done and tryde long before me and u wer ever around its not practical if u reclaime all the vapour and put it in a holding tank of sorts it will have to be huge and at 20c+ no pasive rad will help with converting the vapour u will need cooling that will have to be sub ambient temp to reclaime the vapour fast enoghf to make it worth while doing

now some ppl think they are totaly smart and try runing the bong exust into a holding tank and haveing the intake fan pull the air out of the holding tank in a loop well it will work for all of 15 min then the heat being pulld out of the water will be in the air and the air comeing back will actualy start heating the water

if ur going for a pure bench system with only few minut runs get a pice of copper pipe 3inch diamiter about 10 inches long get a 1/4inche copper plate drill the mount holes for ither intel or amd or both , buy some of this stuff http://www.recochem.com/en/index.php...methyl_hydrate fill the pipe 1/4way get an iv drip valve and line and have a drip into the pipe and on a 4L jug u will get 20 min run time

and it works grate cause the more heat u put into it the more it boiles and evaps and makes it cold way past ambient
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lol ur idea has been done and tryde long before me and u wer ever around its not practical if u reclaime all the vapour and put it in a holding tank of sorts it will have to be huge and at 20c+ no pasive rad will help with converting the vapour u will need cooling that will have to be sub ambient temp to reclaime the vapour fast enoghf to make it worth while doing

now some ppl think they are totaly smart and try runing the bong exust into a holding tank and haveing the intake fan pull the air out of the holding tank in a loop well it will work for all of 15 min then the heat being pulld out of the water will be in the air and the air comeing back will actualy start heating the water

if ur going for a pure bench system with only few minut runs get a pice of copper pipe 3inch diamiter about 10 inches long get a 1/4inche copper plate drill the mount holes for ither intel or amd or both , buy some of this stuff http://www.recochem.com/en/index.php...methyl_hydrate fill the pipe 1/4way get an iv drip valve and line and have a drip into the pipe and on a 4L jug u will get 20 min run time

and it works grate cause the more heat u put into it the more it boiles and evaps and makes it cold way past ambient
The two pipes wouldn't be in a full loop. That'd be pointless. However instead of expelling all the vapor, some of the water would be retained, while the rest of the air / vapor would be blown out. It'd certainly help :3. Especially if there were multi-stages instead of just one secondary res.

I'm not listening to anyone until I try it myself!

EDIT: I just had the realization that the water would probably condense in the second stage as fast as it would evaporate. Nothing a little active cooling can't fix! But then why not actively cool the first stage? Just gosh dang it.
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