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Default Make My Own (DICE) Pot? [New Pictures Inside]

While I'm here at school, I have access to a lathe and some mills. When I go home over Fall Break, I'll have access to a CNC lathe and Mill. So I'm interested in making a pot for Dice.

To get me competely up and running (Dice pot, retention, insulation, backplate), how cheaply do you think this can be done?

Is there a guide any where explaining how to make a pot? I've seen that most of the Dice pots are graduated.

Would it be cheaper to make the part that comes in contact with the PC copper and the tube (don't know what this would be called) out of a different material?

Sorry for all the questions, but this stuff is awesome.
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Hi xxbassplayerxx,

Welcome to the DICE/LN2 Section!

I am unable to tell you how much it will cost you to actually fabricate your own stuff, seeing as I have not done it myself.

I bought all of my stuff (DICE/LN2 pot, insulation, retention) for $250 USD.

Hopefully, this will give you a better idea as to what you can gauge as being worth it or not.

In order to save on cost I would go with a copper base and an aluminum top.

You'll need to really focus your engineering on the base as this is where your transfer of heat is going to occur. I can give you a few pointers right away:

- Base thickness
- Increasing surface area, by introducing walls/steps/drilled holes inside the pot on the base.

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Wow... $250 is way over my head right now. I have access to copper and the tools to make it. I might have to get a SolidWorks model going!

This would be an exciting addition to my shop class!

+modrep for you good sir!

Is it better to be thick on the bottom?
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Wow... $250 is way over my head right now. I have access to copper and the tools to make it. I might have to get a SolidWorks model going!

This would be an exciting addition to my shop class!

+modrep for you good sir!

Is it better to be thick on the bottom?
The advantage of having a thicker base is namely that you will be able to hold more "constant/consistent" temperatures. Less fluctuations due to the thickness of the copper. This will be beneficial when you are running long benchmarks since your temperatures will not increase significantly due to the heat generated by the CPU.

Temperature stability is important.

I am sure there are other reasons for this, but I think that this is the major one.

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At the thinnest point, how thick is yours? I'm about to start designing one.
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this title is very misleading
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At the thinnest point, how thick is yours? I'm about to start designing one.
I am afriad that I do not have the tools necessary to measure that for you

Have a look in this thread for some ideas:

http://www.overclock.net/dry-ice-liq...s-gallery.html

The first CPU pot bartx made is a little too thin for my own fancy. Have a look at his other pots. He usually includes his measurements to give you an idea!


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So this is why pots are so expensive!

http://cgi.ebay.com/C110-110-Cu-COPP...4#ht_564wt_939
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So this is why pots are so expensive!

http://cgi.ebay.com/C110-110-Cu-COPP...4#ht_564wt_939
Copper is definitively not cheap that's for sure

Hence, why I recommended that you use aluminum as a top

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