How much for a beginner DICE/LN2 Pot? - Overclock.net

pheoxs · 10-06-09

Looking to push a bit farther and go past conventional cooling. Hoping to start with some initial DICE runs and eventually speak with my faculty about getting LN2 from them, considering we have a massive LN2 tank sitting beside our engineering build for various labs.

Basically wondering how much I'd be looking at for a initial pot to get started with, nothing too extreme like the Dragon F1, just something to do some runs and see if I like it or now.

Currently have about 80 CAD set aside for a pot and that number will double by next week.

I've also read about making your own out of a copper pipe which I'm also considering that route.

Any advice is greatly appreciated and hopefully OCN will see some new records soon

OverShocked · 10-07-09

A great starting pot would be a bartx or duniek pot. With an e6400 a bartx pot with a low base mass should be fine.

Im actually thinking bout selling my current pot. PM me if interested.

**mega_option101** · 10-07-09

My CPU and NB DICE pots cost me $320 USD.

Hope that this gives you an idea

The CPU pot alone was $250 USD.

pheoxs · 10-07-09

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Originally Posted by mega_option101

My CPU and NB DICE pots cost me $320 USD.

Hope that this gives you an idea

The CPU pot alone was $250 USD.

Haha, for my first pot I'm not looking to spend quite that much, but I know I'll get hooked and eventually justify spending that much on one...

Can someone explain to me the difference effects the mass of the base causes, from what I understand (i think) a heavier base will help keep temperatures more constant from idle to load and should help you get lower temperatures. Would a lighter base still work well with LN2, even if some just basic runs with it or would it be more so a DICE only pot.

Any links is always appreciated.

Bartx I PM'd you back btw.

OverShocked · 10-07-09

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Originally Posted by pheoxs

Haha, for my first pot I'm not looking to spend quite that much, but I know I'll get hooked and eventually justify spending that much on one...

Can someone explain to me the difference effects the mass of the base causes, from what I understand (i think) a heavier base will help keep temperatures more constant from idle to load and should help you get lower temperatures. Would a lighter base still work well with LN2, even if some just basic runs with it or would it be more so a DICE only pot.

Any links is always appreciated.

Bartx I PM'd you back btw.

The more base mass the better temp control with ln2 and the more heatload it can take.

EX. Say you have a pot with a very low base mass. If you bring the pot down to -120c then put the cpu under load the temp will spike up to something like -60c. On the contrary, if you have a large base mass then you will see a very small temp difference between idle and load.

Also the better the base mass the more heatload it will take. If you have a pot with a low base mass then put pair it with a chip like the i7 (wich has a massive heatload) you will get massive temp swings when you overclock it.

pheoxs · 10-07-09

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Originally Posted by OverShocked

The more base mass the better temp control with ln2 and the more heatload it can take.

EX. Say you have a pot with a very low base mass. If you bring the pot down to -120c then put the cpu under load the temp will spike up to something like -60c. On the contrary, if you have a large base mass then you will see a very small temp difference between idle and load.

Also the better the base mass the more heatload it will take. If you have a pot with a low base mass then put pair it with a chip like the i7 (wich has a massive heatload) you will get massive temp swings when you overclock it.

Thanks for the explanation, Rep+. I've read about controlling the temperature of the pot to avoid cold bugs and other things, is this mainly just the amount of pressure holding the pot to the chip or how do you control the temps with ln2?

bartx · 10-07-09

Controlling temp - just pouring a proper amount of LN2 to the pot. Temps also depends on pouring skills

Heavy pots have also a "small" disadvantage - go into coldbug/coldbug boot and then wait till pot warm up enought to start the system

voklskier4452 · 10-07-09

A heavier pot is nice once you figure out where your chip cold bugs and then you can hold just higher than that temp rather easily, but a lighter pot will most likely be a little easier for a first timer

got my 3 (1 cpu and 2 GPU) from a member on here for only $215 shipped, check the FS threads!

pheoxs · 10-07-09

Thanks for the help everyone, right now it looks like I'll either pick one up made by BartX, or overshocked said he has one (again made by BartX lol), I also messaged a local machine shop about having a pure copper one made up, but by the time you factor in labour i'm almost positive this will be many many times my budget.

On a semi related topic: Do any other parts have cold bugs. MB, HDD, GPU, etc ... by the time I get all this together I'll be benching in the garage in the winter so I'd be looking at around a -30C ambient... also would the ln2/dice evaporate faster or slower in a colder climate?

OverShocked · 10-07-09

It certainly would evaporate slower in a cold climate, think of pouring a bucket of ice into a pot of boiling water rather than just dumping the ice into a room temperature pot.

If you could keep the DI pressurized it will also keep it from subliminating as fast.

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